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post #1 of 21
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well i own geil value memory 2x512mb

timings standars are 2.5 , 3,3,6 are these good timings ?
can i do anything to them to make them go faster ?
when overclocking my amd/64 3200+ will they limit my overclock im hopping for 2.4ghz or 2.6ghz ? im getting a lanpart ut-d nf4 as well
how much will they limit my overclock buy i dont know how to work it out :withstupi ?

please help i fell as though i have bought crap
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well 2.5-3-3-6 is pretty good for value RAM. You could try to tighten them up a bit to maybe 2.5-3-2-6 or 2-3-3-7 or something like that... but it they may not like it... especially if you're overclocking. if you change anything on your RAM besure you run memtest to make sure your RAM is stable.

your best bet would probably to use a dividor and try to get your RAM to run at 400Mhz while upping your CPU to 2.4.
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thax very much rep points for u
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Originally Posted by enzo15
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Ram speed isn't anyway near as important as CPU Speed, so don't worry too much about your Ram. As Soloz said, keep your Ram at about DDR400 (200Mhz) and again don't worry too much about your timings. If you're really into benchmarking, such as SuperPi I'd recommend tighter timings and quicker ram, but for games and general use, that ram is perfectly okay and will give decent performance. Work on getting your CPU speed as high as is stable.
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post #5 of 21
Oh, man...we've been through this before. That RAM was WINBOND UTT-BH5 CHIPS. Stop worrying!

Set timings at 2-2-2-5 @ 2.85 DDR400 just to make sure and start going crazy on them.

In one of the 5 other threads you've created on the same subject, you posted this pic attached. The BH in the part number is clearly visible. Why are you still so insecure?
post #6 of 21
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Oh, man...we've been through this before. That RAM was WINBOND UTT-BH5 CHIPS. Stop worrying!

Set timings at 2-2-2-5 @ 2.85 DDR400 just to make sure and start going crazy on them.

In one of the 5 other threads you've created on the same subject, you posted this pic attached. The BH in the part number is clearly visible. Why are you still so insecure?
because i have heard other people say that when they put the voltage up and that it fried the guys bios and he has to get it reflashed also how do you know that these timmings are ok do you have effidence sry for me seemng like an idio its just i dont want to damage my memory or my pc cheers
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post #7 of 21
enzo15, dude... I'd listen to zerosniper0 and stop worrying. You have ram that is WINBOND UTT-BH5.
Check out this link and read what they have to say about Winbond UTT BH-5
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Everbody who knows a bit about memory should know about Winbond BH-5. Those chips were designed for low latencies, and with enough Voltage they can run them stable at 250 MHz or even more. According to Winbond, the old BH-5 were specified for up to 3.6V, which means that, in theory, the new chips should not be harmed by this Voltage either.
So I don't see a problem in trying the settings zerosniper0 recommended (timings at 2-2-2-5, 2.85Volts - DDR400). I doubt a voltage of 2.85 is going to fry anything in this particular case.
I hope this will calm you down.
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post #8 of 21
Remember, the higher/faster the FSB, the higher the timing/latency will have to be. Your RAM is faster with lower latency but to get the lowest latency the FSB needs to be at the RAM's recommended speed, ie; 400DDR/200MHz for PC3200. As you increase the FSB these lower latencies will cause lockups so you'll need to increase the latency by increasing the timing values. It's a delicate balance of trial and error.

*crosses fingers and hopes for some REP points*
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Originally Posted by xr6vn9z
Remember, the higher/faster the FSB, the higher the timing/latency will have to be. Your RAM is faster with lower latency but to get the lowest latency the FSB needs to be at the RAM's recommended speed, ie; 400DDR/200MHz for PC3200. As you increase the FSB these lower latencies will cause lockups so you'll need to increase the latency by increasing the timing values. It's a delicate balance of trial and error.

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Eh, you're talking about generic RAM chips. Winbond UTT-BH5 (all BH5 for that matter) can maintain tight timings of 2-2-2-5 past 250 MHz (DDR500), some guys with some old BH5 (better than the newer UTT-BH5, but not by much) and some good cooling have even gotten up to 275 MHz (DDR550) with the same timings. And then there are some people that can go even farther, but that's either with two 256MB sticks or they're using dry ice or some other form of extreme cooling.

Keep in mind that you can't do anything with BH5 unless you've got a motherboard (or the OCZ DDR Volt Booster) that can pump more than 3.2 volts into the vdimm. You'll need around 3.5 volts for BH5 to reach its full potential (some people use 3.6 and 3.7, but that's with at the very least an 80mm fan blowing over the modules).
post #10 of 21
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i looked at one of the links that the guys up above gave me and it says
that i could try 2-2-2-7 at 2.6v should i try this !!!!
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