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OP you could of got a GTX 295/5870 or 5850 crossfire setup with that cash... with a i7 920.... . . . .. . ..
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Ahhh shucks guys, relax about what is better.

If OP can't build a computer, then what he got is an okay deal (IMO).
As for costs, here is the deal:
I coincidentally have my very own build log on this forum (here). If you look at that and see what I have there and what I am planning to get (I7 920, 5850, 6GB 2000MHZ RAM), you might think it will cost above 2G. I have not put the prices up, because nobody really asked, but I keep track of every dollar that I spent on this RiG of mine. Also, note that my RiG is from scratch (need monitor, case, mouse, keyboard, headset, etc...), so I am going to be paying a bit more than if I were just buying the computer itself. Anyway, to get to my point, I have calculated that my total cost will be ~1650$ CAD. Although, I did wait for some deals and try and shave money everywhere I could, I'm sure you could of scored the same or even better deal (especially since you live in the U.S. and can get a I7 920 D0 for 200$ and have beter deals in general)

All that to say, if you were capable of assembling a computer, than you could of gotten a better PC for the same price. However, in your case, this still was a good deal.

To the other things. I prefer 1366 over 1156 and don't get the T260HD if you are looking for a gaming comp (I know the T240HD has horrible input lag ---> T260HD is, I think, extremely similar). If you want a good 1920 x 1200 monitor for gaming, get the 2443BW. Also, go scour the monitor section of OCN, I just finished getting mine and there are a bunch of good threads there about monitors.


EDIT: Found a thread for you guys to fight over 1156 vs 1366
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...0-bashing.html
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And? I have a 16mb cache on my current pc. Whats the difference performance wise? Also Seak a AMD 955 Rig (that I had originally tried to build) had costed me about $1500. Also FSF how am I NOT right. I gave the 1366 socket credit for Dual GPU setups but to spend more money for just that is not that beneficial as it does only that much better.
Edited by Raji8 - 12/4/09 at 2:24pm
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And? I have a 16mb cache on my current pc. Whats the difference performance wise? Also Seak a AMD 955 Rig (that I had originally tried to build) had costed me about $1500. Also FSF how am I NOT right. I gave the 1366 socket credit for Dual GPU setups but to spend more money for just that is not that beneficial as it does only that much better.
Switching from my 16mb cache hard drive to my 32 let me record my fraps videos at almost real time framerates (not much of a drop due to recording)



now.. I answered in the bold.

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*cough* fanboy *cough* socket fanboy? what.

Also Single cards is all I plan on running as CF/SLI to me is a waste of money. ok

Also Unless your going over 4GHz with Overclock the 860 wins and even it can get to 4GHz and still at the very least keep up with the 920. It can, with a very good cooling solution, and a good chip. Most get to 4Ghz-4.2 with close/above 1.4 vcore.

Also overclocking isn't that much difference considering the 920/860 runs the SAME CHIP with minor differences. The dies are different. The 860s got a PCI-E controller, and from what I've gathered, a weaker/lower quality IMC, which explains why people need 1.4+ VTT for their overclocks

And the D0's OC better but they arent as easy to get either and arent as common. every (except for a few left over C0s) chip off newegg is D0 now. They are common.

Also the 1156 is not low end when you think about it the C2D/C2Q or AMD duals/triples are. Terrible argument. 6-7 years ago, you'd think a pentium 4 is a high end processor. What you're doing is calling older chips based on older architecture low end because they are simply "old". LGA-1156 is supposed to replace the whole core 2 line to fill in the price point gap.

In the long run 1156 will have more expandability (for processors), the only thing it wont have is 6 core processors which is OVERKILL for the consumer market. Expandibility? You have no idea where it's going to go. Intel has only told us that they sell the new core i5s and core i3s January 3rd, which possibly might be the last set of LGA-1156 processors for a long time.
You mean the consumer mainstream market, not the whole consumer market. Enthusiasts will be all over the core i9.


Also the 920 costs more when you factor in needing more then 3GB since you have to get 6GB of RAM due to triple channel and the mobo's cost more. You can get 3GB in triple channel. RAM is at a all time high now, you can't get any RAM kit for cheap. I bought my 6GB kit (see sig) for 80 bucks this august. Look at it NOW http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145236
I bought my 860 4GB kit (same RAM, cept only two modules) the day the 860 came out and it was 106 dollars.





In the end the 920 does CF/SLI better and thats all, which doesnt really matter with cards like the 5850/5870/5970 coming out/out. It does matter if you want to do SLI/CFX, you even said it.

All in all it's overpriced and what it can do the 860 can do or do better. Wrong, again. I'll run benchmarks in a few minutes to prove that you're wrong.

And to the last part thats what I said. If it runs at at least 1920x1080 then it's HD 1080p I'm not a screen expert, but I'm pretty sure 1080p refers to progressive video @ 1920x1080, which is not the same as 1920x1080 on a monitor (because it's not video.. !)

Edited by FSF-Foxhound - 12/4/09 at 6:05pm
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Hey Foxhound, about the RAM, I need to get some G.Skill 3x2GB 2000MHZ Trident, When should I get it?....as you said, prices are ridiculous ATM. Will prices come down?
    
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Hey Foxhound, about the RAM, I need to get some G.Skill 3x2GB 2000MHZ Trident, When should I get it?....as you said, prices are ridiculous ATM. Will prices come down?
eventually, I'm not that educated on the topic, but from what I've gathered apple, dell etc bought a lot of RAM and they're low on supply. I don't know.
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I don't enjoy people that will go to any length just to prove my point.
Kinda seems immature in my opinion.
I bet FSF is going to come after me too.
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Switching from my 16mb cache hard drive to my 32 let me record my fraps videos at almost real time framerates (not much of a drop due to recording)



now.. I answered in the bold.
Well I guess I'm partially ignorant then. In any case IMO the i9/Gulfstream will be overkill seeing as how I have yet to see a game/application to use even 4 cores but we'll see. And yes it does do better in CFX/SLI however you CAN run Single Cards (see 5850/5870) that do at least do a decent job of keeping up with some of the older CFX/SLI setups. Also the OC of 4GHz I saw was 1.33VCore with the retail cooler. Golden Chip then I guess. Also I thought the revisions went backwards (D0 then C0 lol) . Also look at the HD 1080p moniters they run at 1920x1080 Moniter Res. (I do not know however what the P stands for or if it even has a p after the 1080). And whats terribly bad about 1.4VCore as opposed to 1.25Vcore. I know it generates more heat but unless you have a adaquete cooling solution then you really shouldnt be OCing anyways.
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Well I guess I'm partially ignorant then. In any case IMO the i9/Gulfstream will be overkill seeing as how I have yet to see a game/application to use even 4 cores but we'll see. And yes it does do better in CFX/SLI however you CAN run Single Cards (see 5850/5870) that do at least do a decent job of keeping up with some of the older CFX/SLI setups. Also the OC of 4GHz I saw was 1.33VCore with the retail cooler. Golden Chip then I guess. Also I thought the revisions went backwards (D0 then C0 lol) . Also look at the HD 1080p moniters they run at 1920x1080 Moniter Res. (I do not know however what the P stands for or if it even has a p after the 1080). And whats terribly bad about 1.4VCore as opposed to 1.25Vcore. I know it generates more heat but unless you have a adaquete cooling solution then you really shouldnt be OCing anyways.

If you saw it on a website, (the 860 overclock) then they're probably using a ES, or a good chip. P stands for progressive scan.

Well, people with a AC7 pro have trouble with a i7 860 @ 1.4 Vcore. That's usually a good cooler, too.

And at the statement about the i9, well, Terragen 2 is one of the programs that uses more than 8 threads, in fact, I wonder if there is a limit on how many cores you can use. Turning on HT sped up rendering times so much, I wonder why I ever had it off. After Effects, lots of video/3d editing applications use more than 4 threads.

On top of those programs, benchmarks appear to benefit. the i9 does much better than the i7 in lots of benchmarks (3d benchmarks)


anyway, post pics of your rig when it's up and running.
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If you saw it on a website, (the 860 overclock) then they're probably using a ES, or a good chip. P stands for progressive scan.

Well, people with a AC7 pro have trouble with a i7 860 @ 1.4 Vcore. That's usually a good cooler, too.

And at the statement about the i9, well, Terragen 2 is one of the programs that uses more than 8 threads, in fact, I wonder if there is a limit on how many cores you can use. Turning on HT sped up rendering times so much, I wonder why I ever had it off. After Effects, lots of video/3d editing applications use more than 4 threads.

On top of those programs, benchmarks appear to benefit. the i9 does much better than the i7 in lots of benchmarks (3d benchmarks)


anyway, post pics of your rig when it's up and running.
Well interesting info that is and I will. And also It was at 1.44 VCore made a typo but heres the review for it http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3641&p=8
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