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Poll expired: Jan 3, 2006  
  • 43% (14)
    AMD 64 3700+ socket 939
  • 56% (18)
    AMD Opteron 148 socket 939
32 Total Votes  
post #21 of 62
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After looking at your system, I change my vote completely. I wouldn't upgrade the cpu, I'd upgrade the gpu. I think you'll see a larger difference in video games with that move over the cpu upgrade. If you're not interested in gaming performance, stick with the cpu upgrade.
Im getting a brand new CPU, Motherboard, and Video Card. I've already decided on the DFI Nf4 Ultra-D socket 939 Motherboard. The eVGA 7800GT from newegg that comes with a free Quake 4 game. The CPU is the only new compent that I'm not sure on what to pick on. Its either the 3700+, or the Opteron 148. There such a close comparasion, so its hard to really pick which one to get.

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Im getting a brand new CPU, Motherboard, and Video Card. I've already decided on the DFI Nf4 Ultra-D socket 939 Motherboard. The eVGA 7800GT from newegg that comes with a free Quake 4 game. The CPU is the only new compent that I'm not sure on what to pick on. Its either the 3700+, or the Opteron 148. There such a close comparasion, so its hard to really pick which one to get.

Josh
Are you buying the cpu online? If so, ya, it'd be impossible to guess what stepping you'll get. What's the price difference from the store you're buying from?
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Are you buying the cpu online? If so, ya, it'd be impossible to guess what stepping you'll get. What's the price difference from the store you're buying from?

Well, heres what I could do....

I could go and see at a 2 or 3 local computer shops and see if they have any good steppings of the Opteron 148's laying around...?

Or should I just say the Hell with it, and go with the good old trust 3700+'s?
post #24 of 62
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Well, heres what I could do....

I could go and see at a 2 or 3 local computer shops and see if they have any good steppings of the Opteron 148's laying around...?

Or should I just say the Hell with it, and go with the good old trust 3700+'s?
It can't hurt to gather a little info before you make up your mind. Go do a little recon and see what they have on the shelf. You can clearly see the steppings through the plastic on the retail box, so it's not like you'd have to ask them to take it out of the box. Go see what's available and what they're charging. Remember though, you're going to be paying sales tax
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That's not a true statement and the Opterons have slightly relaxed memory controller settings which causes them to be slightly slower at equal speeds.
thats pretty interesting, do you think thats why they generally oc better
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thats pretty interesting, do you think thats why they generally oc better
Yes
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post #27 of 62
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okay lets see here.if i get a new stepping from both the 3700+, and the opter 148. Which one would have a better OC?
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thats pretty interesting, do you think thats why they generally oc better
They have the same memory controller, i don't see how such thing possible.
and no, the Opterons OC way further then the regular Athlon, so it cannot be cause by a "slight difference" in the memory controller.
For instance, ncsa took his 146 as far as 3.4 GHz on bare air!.

Most of the regular socket 939 motherboards might have trouble running an Opteron, as they don't officially supported by any PC platform mobo.
Tho, i can confidently say that the DFI mobos run Opterons smoothly.

be aware of the PSU you're getting, DFI mobo tend to be picky about the PSU.
Good luck with your new rig!.
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post #29 of 62
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Final thought, its time to get down to bisuness and order the damn CPU. the Opty 148, or AMD 3700+
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They have the same memory controller, i don't see how such thing possible.
and no, the Opterons OC way further then the regular Athlon, so it cannot be cause by a "slight difference" in the memory controller.
For instance, ncsa took his 146 as far as 3.4 GHz on bare air!.

Most of the regular socket 939 motherboards might have trouble running an Opteron, as they don't officially supported by any PC platform mobo.
Tho, i can confidently say that the DFI mobos run Opterons smoothly.

be aware of the PSU you're getting, DFI mobo tend to be picky about the PSU.
Good luck with your new rig!.
ROFL. No, sorry bro, NCSA was using phase change which is as far from air cooling as humanly possible. Again, the Opterons vary their OCing depending on the stepping just as every other cpu does. They have the same architecture, the only variants possible are the memory controller settings and cache settings.
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