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Poll expired: Jan 3, 2006  
  • 43% (14)
    AMD 64 3700+ socket 939
  • 56% (18)
    AMD Opteron 148 socket 939
32 Total Votes  
post #51 of 62
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3700+ all the way?!. Having some mixed feelings here....
post #52 of 62
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What's wrong with their memory timings? The sandiego in question has the same multi, so I dont think memory speeds have anything to do with this. Good luck with your run, tho. See if you can beat me and my crappage memory.
You misunderstood what he said. He's saying that they're using extremely low latentcy ram and is improving those times. Btw, you shouldn't look at 1M times as being stable anyways. You need to look at 32M or something that lasts longer than 30 seconds lol
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And why does it matter that they are on good cooling? Are you saying that oc newbie and ncsa would be doing better with a sandiego? Because somehow I trust their judgement more than your speculation. They know what they're doing, and have used other chips before. I dont think theyd be running inferior chips in such amazing setups.
post #54 of 62
Well look at it this way... everyone was agreeing the Opty CAB2E stepping won't hit over 2800 and is only slightly better than the GABGE... WRONG!
I've found Confirmed OCs in the 2900 range with a low 1.5v range on air.
So, whats my point... comparing the 2 CPUs themself and not considering the system or the persons both luck and ability leaves the "Opinions" with out merit.
Luck of the draw on the unit, the system components and the persons ability are all factors

Don't worry, hopefully you get a good core and it OCs well, the 3700+ SD seem to do well... very few dogs
BTW... the CURRENT Opty 148s in the Retail package seem to be CAB2E but there is no gurrantee unless you can get a confirmation form the seller.
    
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And why does it matter that they are on good cooling? Are you saying that oc newbie and ncsa would be doing better with a sandiego? Because somehow I trust their judgement more than your speculation. They know what they're doing, and have used other chips before. I dont think theyd be running inferior chips in such amazing setups.
Speculation? You're confused. You are the one that is speculating and telling readers that Opterons will overclock 200 mhz higher than San Diegos will across the board. This is simply untrue and has no basis in fact. Also, like I said, you're looking at 1M benchmarking and misunderstanding what it signifies. Look at 1M cpu speeds, then compare those to 32M speeds. Do you notice how the speeds have decreased? Do you understand why that is?
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I just don't see why you would choose the san diego. We've seen them before, and they aren't anything special. Whereas opterons seem to overclock like crazy, even in the hands of a n00b like me. I'm still runnin my first time build, and I'm in the top ten 1m superpi scores listing. I think that takes a little more than luck. The chip definately has something to do with it. If he gets a san diego, its just gonna be the same old thing. With an opty, there's a chance he could get an amazing chip.
post #57 of 62
I've found that, and this may not be important, there is a LOT of info on the net about 3700+ CPUs and MANY people OC them with extremely good results. So, perhaps this is a testament to their consistency as OCers. Merry Christmas!!! BTW, why not wait to place the order the day after? Maybe get a deal!!!
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post #58 of 62
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I've found that, and this may not be important, there is a LOT of info on the net about 3700+ CPUs and MANY people OC them with extremely good results. So, perhaps this is a testament to their consistency as OCers. Merry Christmas!!! BTW, why not wait to place the order the day after? Maybe get a deal!!!
Good idea
post #59 of 62
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Lets say I get the Asus AN8 SLI motherboard. I think I have a better chance with the opteron 148 rather than the 3700+. For one, the max Vcore on the motherboard is 1.65V. Now I know for overclocking a Opteron that is plenty of voltage to share within the chip. Now for the 3700+'s, I think they might require more Vcore in order to overclock anywhere near a opteron 148 at lets say 1.55V's.
post #60 of 62
Look, these chips are very similar. The poll seems to be holding a steady 1:1 ratio. If you want a chip that has a huge user group and that will produce expectable results, get the san diego. If you're willing to take a chance and shoot for 3ghz or more, get the opteron. I think the opty will do better regardless, but we obviously aren't going to come to any sort of agreement on that. So, good luck and happy holidays!
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