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Originally Posted by Pen View Post
I predict that this will be very trouble-some for NVIDIA and will be a test for them.

Succeed: become top dog again
Fail: end to fermi and nvidia
NVIDIA wouldn't be the top dog. Sure they'd have the two most powerful cards, but what good is that when ATI are pretty much better in every other segment of the market?
    
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NVIDIA wouldn't be the top dog. Sure they'd have the two most powerful cards, but what good is that when ATI are pretty much better in every other segment of the market?
In the HPC market they would be unchallenged, and with software and compiler development could start to force both intel and AMD out of servers. I would say that Nvidia's goal seem pretty clear relative to AMD/ATI's. This technology would also have a lot of impact on gaming, VRAM has to be refreshed many, many times at any given moment. This advancement would be like packing GDDR10 on to the board in many ways, but with much less latency and still incredible bandwidth.
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Hrm Zero Defects? Obviously the author did not speak with any Material Engineer. There will always be defects in the production of any semiconductor.
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In the HPC market they would be unchallenged, and with software and compiler development could start to force both intel and AMD out of servers. I would say that Nvidia's goal seem pretty clear relative to AMD/ATI's. This technology would also have a lot of impact on gaming, VRAM has to be refreshed many, many times at any given moment. This advancement would be like packing GDDR10 on to the board in many ways, but with much less latency and still incredible bandwidth.
Don't get me wrong, this is going to be one hell of a thing, but I'm talking about the company as a whole. ATI control pretty much every other segment of the market. Every $10/20 there's a different card.
    
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If Nvidia fails...then Intel will gobble them up. So lets all hope for the best. It's bad enough that AMD owns ATI.
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OK, what the heck is a "via?" Or does the article mean the silicon company? If so, poorly edited article.
A via is a vertical interconnect for two or more horizontal interconnects. Look at any PCB and look for the tons of small little 'holes' in/at end of traces. Those are vias. The same tech is used for silicon, interconnecting copper traces on the silicon substrate.
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Hrm Zero Defects? Obviously the author did not speak with any Material Engineer. There will always be defects in the production of any semiconductor.
Of course, but some parts are more prone to defects than others.

With enough VIAs and smarts, any minor defect can be rerouted around (like existing semiconductor tricks to improve yields).
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Hrm Zero Defects? Obviously the author did not speak with any Material Engineer. There will always be defects in the production of any semiconductor.
read the article again. the author didn't say that, Nvidia's Chen said that he wants that.
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If Nvidia fails...then Intel will gobble them up. So lets all hope for the best. It's bad enough that AMD owns ATI.
Sorry but that's rubbish. It's because of AMD that ATI is where it is now.
    
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post #20 of 23
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Sorry but that's rubbish. It's because of AMD that ATI is where it is now.
Not do shatter your illusion or anything, but ATI had HD3 series in the works long before they merged with AMD. Since 4th and 5th series are just more of everything (in a case of 5th series dx11 support plus new tech node are minor tweaks).

ATI's next gen will probably the first to be developed after merger with AMD given the several year chip design cycle.
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