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You wont be able to overclock it as said above the motherboard doesnt have the options for overclocking no brandname computer does about all you could do is stick the fastest processor that it is suitable for it. You would be much beter with another motherboard though.
Anyone got an Extra motherboard lying around they can Donate to me? LOL

Ok everyone thank you at least I know that I am at the limit and from now on I guess I will go back to putting them together myself instead of having DELL do it.

Thanks again to everyone that responded
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The OEMs limit the motherboard bios settings you can change, which is known as a, "Shadowed Bios". You cannot change voltages, FSB settings or even ram timings. So there is no way to OC a prebuilt via the bios.

One option you do have is a BSEL MOD. This method basically changes the pin grounds and vcc to force the motherboard to boot to a higher FSB while maintaing the CPU multi. This is used in the the following scenario:

You have a 200 FSB CPU with a x12 CPU multi. It runs at 2.4GHz in the OEM system. Then you open the case, remove the heatsink and pull the CPU. Do the 266 FSB BSEL mod, put the system back together, and the CPU runs 266 FSB with 12x CPU multi, and is able to run at ~3.2GHz.

The only way this will work though is if the CPU can run 3.2GHz with the default voltage going to it. I've done this mod myself for friends on Dell systems running E4400 Conroes.


I have also done this mod to an E6600 so that it ran at a 333 FSB instead of a 266 FSB.
Is there a way to tell prior to taking off the heatsink and CPU if I will be able to do this with my E6400 concerning the default voltage I mean? And would it be better to just build another pc at this point my wife needs a "LOOK @ FACEBOOK MACHINE" anyways... I mean my work conditions for this aren't ideal and if is going to require yanking out hardware and taking a chance to scew it up... Im not sure the gamble is worth it... the FSB MOD not sure how I would do that with the CPU Out?
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Here are some links on the BSEL MOD. I should mention there is a vcore BSEL mod to increase the voltage going to the chip. I have not tried this, and would be a little hesitant with the Dell stock cooling.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=132900

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=544278


Applying new thermal paste (first clean both contact surfaces with rubbing alcohol):



Edited by ericeod - 12/14/09 at 1:32am
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Here are some links on the BSEL MOD. I should mention there is a vcore BSEL mod to increase the voltage going to the chip. I have not tried this, and would be a little hesitant with the Dell stock cooling.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=132900

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=544278
Gotcha Thank you... Yeah I don't have the funds for a better cooling system at this point. I will investigate this further and weigh the risk and cost / speed benefit...

THank you again...
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Here are some links on the BSEL MOD. I should mention there is a vcore BSEL mod to increase the voltage going to the chip. I have not tried this, and would be a little hesitant with the Dell stock cooling.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=132900

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=544278

YouTube- Dell SC1430: BSEL Mod (FSB overclock)
Holy cr_Ap that video was cool... that BSEL mod is awsome... Now I want to try it lol
post #16 of 21
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Is there a way to tell prior to taking off the heatsink and CPU if I will be able to do this with my E6400 concerning the default voltage I mean? And would it be better to just build another pc at this point my wife needs a "LOOK @ FACEBOOK MACHINE" anyways... I mean my work conditions for this aren't ideal and if is going to require yanking out hardware and taking a chance to scew it up... Im not sure the gamble is worth it... the FSB MOD not sure how I would do that with the CPU Out?
I just posted a video showing a BSEL MOD on a dual socket Dell.

There is no way to tell if it will be stable until you try it. It isnt permanent, so you can just remove the mod if it is unstable.

All you are doing is connecting 2 pads with conductive copper tape.



I picked up a small roll of copper tape for like $5 at Fry's. You will also need a tube of thermal paste (Arctic Silver 5 will work) to reapply between the heatsink and the top of the CPU after removing the CPU to do the BSEL mod.

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Holy cr_Ap that video was cool... that BSEL mod is awsome... Now I want to try it lol
Yeah it is pretty easy.
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UHG! that is really upsetting .... Ok then I just spent money on 2 more 1 gig sticks of RAM for no reason then.... Can I ask you quickly is there something I can do settings wise in windows that will allow me to optimize my ram... Not sure what paging is but possibly turning paging on or increasing some setting or something? Or.... ***SIGH***
What do you use your computer for? If its not being used for intensive stuff like rendering 3d videos, encoding, or gaming there could be a solution.

Windows XP is notorious for growing slower and slower over time as it becomes bogged down with junk, but with a little time and patience it can be cleaned up and be made to run like new again. Or you could just reformat and reinstall Windows which will have the same effect, but without taking the right steps and maintaining it will just bog down again over time.
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OP, one last thing before I go. Here are your CPU Specs:

http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9T9

It runs an x8 CPU multi with a 266 FSB. By doing the BSEL mod, your chip will be running 2.66GHz. I should think that would be possible on stock vcore.
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What do you use your computer for? If its not being used for intensive stuff like rendering 3d videos, encoding, or gaming there could be a solution.

Windows XP is notorious for growing slower and slower over time as it becomes bogged down with junk, but with a little time and patience it can be cleaned up and be made to run like new again. Or you could just reformat and reinstall Windows which will have the same effect, but without taking the right steps and maintaining it will just bog down again over time.
I have been doing a lot of video converting in the background while still using some system sucking programs in the forefront... I thought it an issue with ram seeing my CPU Usage always at %100 and things taking 20 secs or so to come back... I have in the past done a reformat about every 4-6 months but hate to have to do that all the time... didn't know if there was a way to have windows take better advantage of the ram that isn't being used...
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OP, one last thing before I go. Here are your CPU Specs:

http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL9T9

It runs an x8 CPU multi with a 266 FSB. By doing the BSEL mod, your chip will be running 2.66GHz. I should think that would be possible on stock vcore.
Yes I will try this will grab some of that tape and some silver heat sink schtuff
worse case it doesn't boot and I have to remove it... at least I tried.

Thank you agian.
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