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And i feel sad for bernie. Would rather get a bunch of noctua fans instead of upgrade to a loop or 3770k. Some place did a study on fans, they found that like the 4th and 5th fan drops temps on cpu/gpu/chipset about 1-4*C total, the 6th like 1*C. Just really diminishing returns after 4 fans, at which point you are talking like maybe 1-2*C on chipset, or gpu, nothing significant.
yo bro, I feel sad for you for real, why would I upgrade to a loop while air cooling is just fine? plus D14 beats H100i anyway, adding water cool to a computer is like adding a water cooling system on a 1968 Porsche 911, which you don't need it, and one less issue to worry about. Plus, the 4 side intake fans are for GPU only, its not even aiming close to the CPU at all, and 3770k, bro how hot are you running, please tell me you at least de-lidded the chip or something, plus I am gonna get Haswell, like a 3770k going to matter anyway, so I suggest you lift more.

You spent over $100 on cooling fans you didn't need. You could've gotten a much better decrease in temps going upgrading to custom loop (sell NH-d14 + $120 = cpu only loop).

You realize H100 is not true 'water cooling' right? It's a faux water cooling, it's a closed loop. It's not even close to the performance of a closed loop, mainly because it lacks a reservoir and just has way less water in it.

You talk about how unnecessary water cooling is, but you are the one who bought $120 in fans. You might make sense if you were running like a single Hyper 212+ with stock fans, or maybe bought some true 120 or some old, mid-range cooler for $20-30... but you have over 6 $20 fans in your system. ***. That's diminishing returns if I'v ever seen it. It'd maybe make sense if you were doing some ridiculous build, like the case built of fans (a few of them have been done in the modded section) but that's novelty.

4 intake fans aren't going to do anything for a GPU, case fan studies, like the one I mentioned earlier, show that a side intake fan hardly drops temps for a GPU at all (that is, after you have 3 fans in your system already, if you have 1-2 case fans and add an intake fan you might get a few degrees). Putting 4 intake fans after you already have 3+ case fans will do less than 5*C of cooling. I hardly doubt your temps were so bad, yet, 5*c cooling saved you, and there are better and cheaper ways to do the same result.

Hell, $10 thermal paste re-application, is better, and cheaper, than buying just one additional fan. Depending on the paste, you can get a 5*C+ drop over stock pastes or midrange or old pastes like as5 with a modern paste for $4 for 1.5g like PK-3 or Masscool. Bump that to $15 for some CLU/CLP and you can get 10*C over high end pastes even.
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3770k, bro how hot are you running, please tell me you at least de-lidded the chip or something, plus I am gonna get Haswell, like a 3770k going to matter anyway, so I suggest you lift more.

I can't understand what you are saying here, you type like a teenager. What does haswell have to do with you wasting money on ridiculous amount of expensive fans?

Waste of money lol. It's nice when parents buy you things.
Hey man thank you for your concern, yes I do use good thermal paste, arctic mx-4, it's pretty sweet. Oh I have 10 noctua fans, 4 on side panel, 3 on coolers, and 3 in the case (2 on top are not showing). And 4x side panel fans did cool off my gpu, I don't understand why you are keeping denying it, it works, gets the job done. Plus I'm not the only one running that set up.
Also lets just assume, if I do a real water cooling loop, I will probably spend same amount of money on the fans, cuz I will want the best fans, which is noctua for my radiators. For example if I will do a water cooling setup, I will get my CM Storm Trooper case that's laying around, a 480 rad on top, thats 2 fans, and 360 in the front, that's another 3 fans, bottom 240 rad, that's another 2 fans (Although I am not sure if I needed that even for 2 way SLI) then side panel has 2 fans and 1 exhaust in the rear, so either way I will 10 noctua fans regardless, and plus radiator, water blocks, hoses, fittings, reservoir and pump. The cost, and future maintenance is not even worth it IMO.
There you have it, just because I get whatever I want, and have epic fans that cost more than the case itself, are you jelly?

Edit: sorry I was at work earlier today, I didn't have time to give you a good reply. Have a good day.
Edited by bernie3674 - 1/30/13 at 5:39pm
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Are you trolling now?
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no, not at all, mate.
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posted in this thread a while back, but cant actually remember joining the club! whistle.gif


*edit* haha, i have just noticed the dust on the fan edges....... rolleyes.gif will have to get a can of air on it.
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Hello to all,
I have an issue with my NH-D14. After mounting I got short consecutive beeps and after about 15 seconds it would shut down, after which it would restart. I tried every combination of RAM and it would only work with one stick. Today I read someone talking about backplate problems and I thought ”let me try switching back to the stock cooler”. Guess what? With the stock cooler I had no problem booting with 2 sticks of RAM.
What could be the problem? Too much pressure on the MB? Should I tighten the backplate a little more loosely?

PS: Sorry if this wasn't the right place to post my problem.
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The beeps are a code. Short and/or long beeps and how many in what order please? I have seem backing plates grounding out to case cause problems. Not saying that's it, but does sound like a mounting issue.
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Well short beeps and continuous beeping. I read that it's either a RAM problem or a power problem. I thought that the Noctua fans were sucking up too much power and I disconnected the CPU fans, but it did the same thing.
The backplate is indeed touching the case (the backplate hole is kinda small), but I even put some leather between the case and backplate, and still nothing.
The backplate is rubberized so I don't think it is a problem from that. Although it is stepping on two small soldered terminals which have a neat finish (i.e. they're not pointy).
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Does it show any errors on the POST screen?
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The monitor doesn't turn on, but the HDD seems to have it's usual start-up sounds.
I remounted the Noctua cooler, tightening the the crews on the brackets by hand, but it still doesn't work with 2 sticks of RAM.
Should I try with a VGA cable instead of HDMI to see if the post screen comes on?
Edited by BuGabriel - 1/31/13 at 9:35am
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Well short beeps and continuous beeping. I read that it's either a RAM problem or a power problem. I thought that the Noctua fans were sucking up too much power and I disconnected the CPU fans, but it did the same thing.
The backplate is indeed touching the case (the backplate hole is kinda small), but I even put some leather between the case and backplate, and still nothing.
The backplate is rubberized so I don't think it is a problem from that. Although it is stepping on two small soldered terminals which have a neat finish (i.e. they're not pointy).
Put a piece of stiff paper like a piece of a file folder or paperback book cover between the backing plate and case to be sure. My guess is something metal in the mount is touching causing a short. The short is probably the cooler to case. You wouldn't think it would matter but it seems to. I've had this happen 3 times over the years. After I put something between the case and mount they worked fine. Something like a notepad cover or back.. Not too thick.
Edited by doyll - 1/31/13 at 11:24am
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