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RV560, X1600 re-spin to be named X1700

As 2005 draws to a close, attention turns to 2006, which in IT way is going to start sooner than more people expect. Viva Las Vegas in first week of January will bring us Intel's Core (ex-Yonah) and the Viiv platform. However, what's interesting is that the 3D wars will continue as well.
ATI's recently shipped reference boards with R580 chip to its partners and is organising road-tours showing of the new product as we write these lines. The PCB looks almost identically to "old" R520 boards, with same cooling solutions and so on. Since the R580 chip is pin-compatible with R520, there was very small number of modifications ATi needed to do. As far as the product line-up goes, you can expect X1900XL, X1900XT and All-in-Wonder X1900XL boards.

While the first two can get their counterparts from Nvidia, the All-in-Wonder X1900 is going to be "zero competition board"; since nV still has no high-end products featuring TV tuners... and digital DVB-T with GeForce sounds like a pipe-dream.

As far for the mainstream part goes, RV560 is working quite nicely - the sources suggest introduction at same time as Green Goblin's 90 nanometer products: 7200, 7300 and 7600. Q1'06. The RV530 core was thoroughly modified in order to increase the performance, so it's no wonder the company has decided to call it X1700.

Special Thanks to Theo Valich

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ATI will announce its new flagship GPU on Tuesday 24th January, 2006 if reports from China today prove to be accurate (thanks to reader Adrian Diaz for the translation). Thus far, the new chip has been known by its R580 codename, but it will reportedly be released as the Radeon X1900 (Retail Price $999.98)

This comes after Radeon X1800XT being ATI's top video card for little over three and a half months since its announcement on October 5th, and less than a single sales Quarter from when it started shipping in November. Every man and his dog knows that R520 was delayed by months because of a soft grounding issue inside the early revisions of the GPU. Its initial launch was planned to be as early as June this year.

ATI has not disclosed specifications of R580, but we are under the impression that it will have significantly more shader power and higher clock speeds over R520. We're expecting to see 48 shader processors attached to the Ultra Threaded Dispatch Processor compared to the 16 shader processors in R520. However, there will be no increase in texture units or pixel output engines - there will still be 16 texture units and 16 pixel output engines.

R580 (Radeon X1900) is reported to be pin-compatible with the current Radeon X1800-series PCB, meaning that we are not expecting to see ATI move to GDDR4 with the first R580-based products. We could see that move later down the line, though.

We also understand that ATI will use the same cooling solution as found on the current flagship Radeon X1800XT on the new top end card that we're expecting to be called Radeon X1900XT. Yesterday, Wil let on that it might be known as Radeon X1850 series but - based on the differences between R520 and R580 - I suspect it justifies a bigger leap in nomenclature to X1900.

The differences between the previous generation of R423 and R480 were small, and the main reason behind R480 was to resolve the production issues that ATI was having with Radeon X800XT PE. R480 didn't change anything in the pixel shader, unlike R580, which should have some significant gains in performance in shader-intensive titles, like F.E.A.R. and Call of Duty 2.

Of course, NVIDIA aren't likely to take this lying down. If R580 proves to be substantially quicker than X1800XT, and therefore also GeForce 7800 GTX, then expect Santa Clara to counter-punch with G71. Little is publically known about this new GPU, other than it improves on G70's 110nm process by joining ATI at 90nm.

This normally results in lower power consumption, less heat generated, and higher clock speeds - rumours put G71's core clock in excess of 700MHz; possibly as high as 750MHz. It's worth noting that the reference speed of the 7800 GTX is 430MHz, though the recently released GeForce 7800 GTX 512MB increased that to 550MHz. This would put G71 over 60% faster than the former, and still a third quicker than the latter.

We may have to wait until the New Year before we will know any more than that.
    
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Wow I hope this stuff is right.. it will be uber
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its all just speculation imo, i doubt very much that ati and nvidia will be be bothering releasing any more cards before the g80 and the ati equivalent (forgot name) comes out
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I really doubt that the r580 will cost nearly $1000 usd...I think it will start around the $600 mark like the r520 did.
    
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It is a possibility. Im sure the X1800 can be nowhere near cheap to manufactor, and ATI has had some trouble keeping availability constant, which means the X1800's may not see either a price cut, and if they do it will be a little one. It depends on how Nvidia markets their card to.
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1000?!?!?!?!?! f that... lol
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It is a possibility. Im sure the X1800 can be nowhere near cheap to manufactor, and ATI has had some trouble keeping availability constant, which means the X1800's may not see either a price cut, and if they do it will be a little one. It depends on how Nvidia markets their card to.
X1800's have had about a $100 price cut since they came out about a month or 2 ago though
    
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X1800's have had about a $100 price cut since they came out about a month or 2 ago though
About $100? Maybe $60-$70 on some models. And besides, it was foolish for ATI to attempt to market them at such a price. There was blatant reasoning for it.
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About $100? Maybe $60-$70 on some models. And besides, it was foolish for ATI to attempt to market them at such a price. There was blatant reasoning for it.
Um Jori http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102629 Thats more than $100 cut.
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Um Jeremy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131315 thats not. One card does not reflect all cards. And its simply the MSRP. The seller of the card can have it for more or less than $1000 if they wanted.
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