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I installed mine yesterday and so far it's about 30 degrees cooler than with the stock cooler, I just have one issue is the heatsink gonna be a little "loose" so you can twist it like a noch to the sides? Not much but just a tiny bit
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Originally Posted by Alx2331 View Post
I installed mine yesterday and so far it's about 30 degrees cooler than with the stock cooler, I just have one issue is the heatsink gonna be a little "loose" so you can twist it like a noch to the sides? Not much but just a tiny bit
itll be a little loose til the compund hardens
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yeah mine moved slightly when I was moving fans about in my case last night (+ swapping the push/pull fans about) but I wasn't too worried as I figured that, plus I put plenty on to fill the gaps between the pipes with an old blockbuster card :E
    
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Mine wiggles when adjusting the fans too. I was concerned about poor thermal paste jobber, but my temps never go above ~45C under load, 29C idle.
Edited by FDS - 3/8/11 at 9:21am
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Time for the weekly posting of the Hyper 212+ Guide/FAQ since the Thread Owner doesn't seem to be interested in keeping things up to date. If anyone sees any mistakes or has something to add to it please let me know.


What makes the Hyper 212+ so desirable?
One of the best things about the 212+ (aside from the price) is that you you don't need to buy anything extra to get excellent cooling. TheBladeMaster fan that comes with it is one of the best you can get for it. Anything that will actually cool better is louder and would only give about a 1C lower temp anyway. You can always pick up a second BladeMaster (not an R4) to run in a push/pull setup. The next step up would be High Speed Yate Loon fans, but the difference isn't worth the additional sound level as far as I'm concerned. A pair of the Medium Speed Yate Loon fans would be quieter, but even in a Push/Pull configuration wouldn't be able to provide as much cooling capacity as the single BladeMaster that comes with the 212+. The regular R4's from Coolermaster don't have as much static pressure and are louder so they aren't as good for this as the stock BladeMaster's or even the High Speed Yate's are, although they would be about as loud.

A pair of BladeMaster's running in Push/Pull compared to a single BladeMaster would probably only be about 1 to 2C difference in temps. Unless you are doing some extreme overclocking or your computer is in a very hot climate it probably isn't enough to worry about. I only do it since I am running the Folding@Home SMP client on my systems
which means they run at 100% cpu load 24/7/365. If I wasn't doing that I would only be using a single BladeMaster
on mine.

What fan comes with the Hyper 212+?
This is the actual BladeMaster fan that comes with the 212+. There are other places that carry it though.

What if my motherboard doesn't have enough PWM fan headers to run a pair of fans in PWM mode?
This is a 12" 4-Pin PWM Fan Y-Adapter Power Cable to allow you to run a pair of BladeMasters off of the same PWM fan header on a motherboard so they stay in sync if you use PWM. Even if your mobo does have enough headers, this is still a great way to make sure that they work together in an optimal fashion.

Do I need to buy a different Thermal Interface Material (TIM)?
The ThermalFusion400 TIM that comes with the Hyper 212+ is excellent as well. It's better than anything Arctic Silver makes and within 1C of Arctic Cooling MX2 or MX3 or IC Diamond 7. The difference between MX-2, MX-3, MX-4, IC Diamond 7, or any of the other top TIM is about 1C when properly applied. For the most part it has more to do with how one applies the TIM than it does what TIM they use. The problem with Arctic Silver is that it has such a long break in period. It takes 2 weeks for it to properly break in and give optimum results. During that time it requires several periods of the system running for app. 2 hours, then off for 2 hours per day every day for 2 weeks or it never really cures. To top that off it needs to be cleaned off and re-applied every 10 to 12 months. Having to re-apply it wouldn't be so bad if it didn't have that long drawn out break in process. The other TIMS I mentioned along with the CM TIM that comes with the 212+ have a break in period of less than an hour, with most being only a couple of minutes, and that is with continuous running. THAT is what makes Arctic Silver such a poor TIM. Back when Arctic Silver was first introduced it was the best that was available, but that was 10 years or more ago. In the past 5 years or so several other TIM's have easily met or exceeded it's performance with much less work involved rendering AS not worth the time or trouble to use anymore.

How should I apply the TIM?
The Hyper 212+ is a Heatpipe Direct Contact so the two or three line method is normally the best way to go. It depends on the number of heatpipes as to how many lines is required, but the 212+ has 4. See the bottom method on this guide. The single drop or line of TIM in the middle rarely works on them.

That said, I did some experimenting with my Hyper 212+'s and am having my best results using a credit card to cram a bit into the crevices then spreading a light coat over the entire surface of the heatsink base and not putting any directly on the cpu's IHS. Cramming some into the crevices between the heat pipes and the heatsink base surface is the key though. If you don't you tend to get air bubbles that prevent optimal heat transfer.

What about side panel fans with a Hyper 212+?
The chances of being able to mount a fan in the side panel of your case with a Hyper 212+ is somewhere between slim and none. The good news is you don't really need one. At best ll that side panel fan will do if you can mount it is bounce air off of the top of the heatsink (and the sides of the fan housings) which won't have any positive affect on your cpu temps. At the worst the airflow from that side panel fan will disrupt the natural airflow in the case causing the cpu temps to rise. In some cases (puns intended) a fan in the lower side panel position blowing on the graphics cards might help cool them, but that isn't a guarantee. Most of the time all the side panel fans do is make your computer louder. You are normally better off just leaving the fans out of the side panel openings (if they exist) and allow the natural airflow to draw in cool air or expel hot air as needed. It can be worth the time to test it out though if you have a fan to mount there, but I wouldn't go out and buy one just to test with though.

My 212+ moves after I mounted it. Is that wrong?
It depends. If all it does is swivel a bit that is normal. If it rocks then something is wrong. You should take it out of the system, double check that the mounting bracket is attached firmly, then remount the heatsink.

The instructions that came with the 212+ are difficult to understand. Are there any guides that do a better job of explaining how to install it?
Coolermaster did a terrible job on the instructions, especially for AMD systems. They have a video that does a great job for Intel systems, but nothing for AMD. Luckily Hardware Canucks has a guide for AMD users that you can use. With the exception of reversing the backplate the instructions work for an Intel system as well.


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typo in last paragraph "Coolermaster dis a terrible job"

also, I bought a coolermaster sickle flow which come in various led colours and look quite nice (led's are quite suttle) and are also very quiet.
    
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Quote:
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typo in last paragraph "Coolermaster dis a terrible job"

also, I bought a coolermaster sickle flow which come in various led colours and look quite nice (led's are quite suttle) and are also very quiet.
Thanks. I have fixed that.

The sickle flow fans are the standard R4 fans. They aren't nearly as quiet as the specs would lead you to believe. The db rating of 19db is with the fan running at it's lowest rpm of app 1,000rpm and a cfm of app 35-38cfm. When running at their full 2,000rpm and 70cfm the db level is around 35-36db, app the same as the BladeMaster that comes with the 212+. Unless one needs the bling of the LED's one is better off with the BladeMaster as they are about 2C cooler than the R4's with a slightly lower db level. Don't get me wrong as they are good fans, just not quite as good as the BladeMaster.
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Got mine yesterday! With some major installation frustration, mainly caused by me not looking at the instructions, it's all fitted and up and running!

First impressions? AMAZING

Idle: 30-35 with sig rig. Haven't seen it go over 37 at load

Compared to my arctic freezer 7, it's about 10 degrees cooler, maybe more.

EXCELLENT COOLER. I LUBS IT
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That's good to hear. The Arctic Freezer's were excellent when they were first released as there were only single and dual core cpus which they could handle quite well. Once Quad Core (and greater) cpus came out they simply didn't have enough mass to handle them when they were overclocked. They are still a nice quiet alternative to the stock heatsinks, but with the cost of the 212+ being what it is they just aren't as financially feasible as they once were. They are easier to install though. I still have one of the 7's and a couple of the 64's that are used from dual core systems that are still functioning quite well after several years of use.
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New user, just ordered a 212, cant wait for it to arrive, mainly because the Arctic freezer 7 ive had coupled with my stock x4 955 for the last 2 days has been cooking the cpu! 45deg on idle and last night it topped 75deg while on full load playing Battlefield Bad Company 2. Tried reseating it a couple of times, reapplied thermal paste, replaced 120mm rear case fan to get more air flow, nothing really helped. So im throwing the 2 day old Arctic 7 into the bin and wait eagerly for the 212. From what ive since read over the net (as Papasmurf said) the Arctic 7's just don't cut it any more, wish i had of known that a few days ago when i first ordered it! (the Arctic freezer 7 and the coolermaster 212 are the same price here in NZ roughly $50nzd~36us)
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