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Originally Posted by lostgryphon View Post
This cooler was cheap and, from what I've seen in my own system, is definitely quite effective for the price.

I had to replace the fan that came with the unit because of the loud...and I mean loud...rattling sound it made, regardless of how it was seated on the heatsink. The sound only died off if I dropped the fan speed down to 50% or so (1200 RPM). Luckily, I'd already bought and been using a second side case fan (Xigmatek Crystal Series) so I just mounted that with the brackets and It's dead silent at 1550 RPM. This came at the tail end of a 6-9 hour (I genuinely can't remember which) building time (What? It was my first one and I'm slow.) where in I used Arctic Silver in a close-to-pea sized glop that must have gone everywhere as I struggled to seat the 212+.

My temps have concerned me somewhat, but looking around has allayed my fears, at least a little. My i5-2500k@4ghz is currently running at 38-44c Idle in a 24c room. Load peaks at 65c with prime 95.

Anything to worry about here? I'm already considering reseating the 212+ with CM's TIM, but...well, basically just "Ugh."
Defective fan? Might want to contact CM about it. Mine has been at full speed and not make any noise like you're describing.

Any coolers with touching heatsinks should have lines of TIM in between the heatpipes, no pea drops.

Pea drops would be used for flat surface type heatsinks.
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Defective fan? Might want to contact CM about it. Mine has been at full speed and not make any noise like you're describing.

Any coolers with touching heatsinks should have lines of TIM in between the heatpipes, no pea drops.

Pea drops would be used for flat surface type heatsinks.
Hm. I'll have to throw CM an e-mail or something about it.

And I suppose I'll reseat it some time soon using that application method. Any particular reason that lines in between the heat pipes cool better? And are my temps high? I thought past 70-75c was about the point you should start becoming concerned.
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You don't want to see mine. ... My 2600K (with Arctic Silver 5) is running at around 46 C on the BIOS setup screen.
Ran Prime95 for a few minutes. Core temperature ranges were 28 - 57, 29 - 63, 33 - 64, and 30 - 60. Ambient is 80 F (South Florida, bleh), and the motherboard is sitting out in the open without a case.
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I did mine like that and it came out like a work of art!
I suspect that the photos of perfect-looking paste applications are staged or altered like fast food ads.
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Originally Posted by lostgryphon View Post
Hm. I'll have to throw CM an e-mail or something about it.

And I suppose I'll reseat it some time soon using that application method. Any particular reason that lines in between the heat pipes cool better? And are my temps high? I thought past 70-75c was about the point you should start becoming concerned.
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How should I apply the TIM?
The Hyper 212+ is a Heatpipe Direct Contact so the two or three line method is normally the best way to go. It depends on the number of heatpipes as to how many lines is required, but the 212+ has 4. See the bottom method on this guide. The single drop or line of TIM in the middle rarely works on them.

That said, I did some experimenting with my Hyper 212+'s and am having my best results using a credit card to cram a bit into the crevices then spreading a light coat over the entire surface of the heatsink base and not putting any directly on the cpu's IHS. Cramming some into the crevices between the heat pipes and the heatsink base surface is the key though. If you don't you tend to get air bubbles that prevent optimal heat transfer.
The idea is that your getting in the crevices. Doing just a pea drop it's probably not spreading across all heat pipes. Just think of TIM as an application to get the CPU to be 100% in contact with the heatsink.
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You must have used the PermaLink for that. Unfortunately that only works for people who have the default post per page setting. Anyone who changes it will get redirected right back to end of the thread. You should ALWAYS use the post number link on OCN for that reason. The post number link is directly to the left of the permalink.

http://www.overclock.net/12295518-post1058.html

That is the best shot/guide I've yet seen on this. Going to change my FAQ to reflect that.
Yes, I used the permalink to my post. Thanks for the heads-up - I'll use the post # link in the future.
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post #1447 of 6664
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Originally Posted by lostgryphon View Post
This cooler was cheap and, from what I've seen in my own system, is definitely quite effective for the price.

I had to replace the fan that came with the unit because of the loud...and I mean loud...rattling sound it made, regardless of how it was seated on the heatsink. The sound only died off if I dropped the fan speed down to 50% or so (1200 RPM). Luckily, I'd already bought and been using a second side case fan (Xigmatek Crystal Series) so I just mounted that with the brackets and It's dead silent at 1550 RPM. This came at the tail end of a 6-9 hour (I genuinely can't remember which) building time (What? It was my first one and I'm slow.) where in I used Arctic Silver in a close-to-pea sized glop that must have gone everywhere as I struggled to seat the 212+.

My temps have concerned me somewhat, but looking around has allayed my fears, at least a little. My i5-2500k@4ghz is currently running at 38-44c Idle in a 24c room. Load peaks at 65c with prime 95.

Anything to worry about here? I'm already considering reseating the 212+ with CM's TIM, but...well, basically just "Ugh."
AS5 takes 10 to 14 days to cure. It requires the system to be turned off until the cpu reaches room temp 2 to 4 times per day or will never properly cure. If you remove the heatsink you have to go thru that entire process again. My advice would be to unmount it now and see how it spread. If the spread looks okay you have the choice of sticking with the AS5 and going through the curing process or cleaning it off with Isopropyl Alcohol (not rubbing alcohol as that will leave an oily residue that acts as an insulator) and applying the CM Tim which cures in a few minutes (1 hour at the most). That choice would be up to you, but due to the amount of time it takes the AS5 to cure you should check it right away so you don't waste that time.

I would have to know exactly which Xiggy fan it is, but it might not have enough static pressure or cfm to work properly as a heatsink fan.

I would definitely contact CM about replacing that fan as they are normally a fairly quiet fan and extremely efficient. Make sure that the foam rubber pads are on the brackets to absorb the vibrations of the fan and make sure that none of the fan blades are damaged. Does it make noise if you run it in free air (plugged in but not mounted)?
Edited by PapaSmurf - 3/18/11 at 3:29pm
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Do you know if anyone has gotten 24/7 4.0Ghz overclock with the Hyper 212+? I'm mostly interested in someone with 2600k and some mid range RAM ect...

Does the TIM make much of a difference in temps, or is the one that come with this good enough?

Will my temps increase if the heat sink wiggled a bit and isn't completely centered?
Edited by nawon72 - 3/18/11 at 4:18pm
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The TIM that comes with the 212+ is excellent. It's as good as any, better than most, and beats the pants off of anything made by Arctic Silver.

I'm running a Q9550 at 4.25GHz 24/7/365 with a 212+. That's a folding rig running the smp client so it is under 100% cpu load 100% of the time.

The heatsink rotating a bit won't affect temps.
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I forgot to ask this earlier. Will i be able to use a ram fan with the Hyper 212+? And what about with 2 fans in P/P? Basically, will a ram fan fit with the Hyper 212+

And how much of a difference will a CAS 7-8-7-24 1.6v memory vs CAS 8 8-8-8-24 make in terms of a CPU overclock. The CAS 7 is $50 more atm since the CAS 8 is on sale($30 off).
Edited by nawon72 - 3/18/11 at 4:32pm
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