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Hi. I'm new to this club.
I just built a rig w Hyper 212+ since I had extra 120mm fan.
So I'm running push/pull set up.
I'm happy with what it does so far.
OC my i5 to 4.6GHz with 34-40c idle, 67-73 100% load.
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post #2342 of 6664
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are your fans the same type of fans?

thanks papasmurf for the info
   
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post #2343 of 6664
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinesethunda View Post
are your fans the same type of fans?

thanks papasmurf for the info
The other fan came from a case that I had.
It runs slower than the CM fan.
1300RPM compared to 2000RPM on CM.
I also have gigantic Panaflo (2750RPM,114CFM) fan but I'm using that to blow air to my GPU.
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post #2344 of 6664
the 212+ with the blademaster alone will be better than using it with a mismatched fan

adding a 2nd blademaster will only help by about 1-2c
post #2345 of 6664
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Originally Posted by ffejrxx View Post
the 212+ with the blademaster alone will be better than using it with a mismatched fan

adding a 2nd blademaster will only help by about 1-2c
Agreed, especially when they are that different.
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post #2346 of 6664
Hopefully this is an acceptable place to ask this (and sorry for the wall of text). I've lurked around here for years soaking in all the information, but I'm still stumped on this problem I'm having with my new 212+ cooler. So I decided to take the plunge and post.

I've read about people getting to 4Ghz clocks using this cooler, with "acceptable" temps (the highest I saw mentioned was around 80C). I've been trying to push for 4Ghz with it, and while I haven't yet gotten stable voltages, when I begin testing it in Prime95 it doesn't take long before the temperatures are pushing into the 90's. That's after only 10 minutes or less of running tests, before I BSOD due to voltages.

I had it running stable at 3.8Ghz before, so I just started out with the voltages there and began working my way up. Currently they're set here:

Vcore: 1.34v
QPI/DRAM: 1.34v
IOH: 1.24v

I decided to try to rectify the temperature problem before I push voltages anymore.

In order to get the temperature lower, I've tried a variety of techniques for putting the thermal compound on, and think I settled on one that worked (though maybe not, if my temps are still this high). I've also sealed up the sides of the heat-sink as I saw mentioned in various other threads. I can't try a shroud at the moment, because I don't have room with my RAM. I also spent the afternoon tidying up my cables even more inside my case. Which couldn't have hurt anything, but I'm not sure how much it helped.

I will also be ordering another Blade Master fan for a push/pull setup in a few days. So it's possible that along with a shroud would make a difference. Though I still feel like I'll need more of the little things to add up to a bigger drop.

The ambient temperature in my room is about 20C (68F, in case my conversion was wrong). Inside my case its about 30C, and from what I can tell, my airflow is laid out well. I just use the stock setup for my NZXT Tempest case.

I guess the TL;DR version is are there any other nuances I'm missing with this cooler that will help my temps get to a more acceptable level? Or am I just asking for too much out of my setup?

Thanks in advance for the help!
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post #2347 of 6664
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how are the fans in your case set up? try a diagram in paint because that might be the biggest problem. pictures would be acceptable too. I am not familiar with your motherboard so idk how it handles OCs but your temps should not be that high if your ambient is 20C, because mine is 20C and load temps are around 60C

I have the nzxt phantom so please show how you have your case is set up
   
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post #2348 of 6664
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireBot View Post
Hopefully this is an acceptable place to ask this (and sorry for the wall of text). I've lurked around here for years soaking in all the information, but I'm still stumped on this problem I'm having with my new 212+ cooler. So I decided to take the plunge and post.

I've read about people getting to 4Ghz clocks using this cooler, with "acceptable" temps (the highest I saw mentioned was around 80C). I've been trying to push for 4Ghz with it, and while I haven't yet gotten stable voltages, when I begin testing it in Prime95 it doesn't take long before the temperatures are pushing into the 90's. That's after only 10 minutes or less of running tests, before I BSOD due to voltages.

I had it running stable at 3.8Ghz before, so I just started out with the voltages there and began working my way up. Currently they're set here:

Vcore: 1.34v
QPI/DRAM: 1.34v
IOH: 1.24v

I decided to try to rectify the temperature problem before I push voltages anymore.

In order to get the temperature lower, I've tried a variety of techniques for putting the thermal compound on, and think I settled on one that worked (though maybe not, if my temps are still this high). I've also sealed up the sides of the heat-sink as I saw mentioned in various other threads. I can't try a shroud at the moment, because I don't have room with my RAM. I also spent the afternoon tidying up my cables even more inside my case. Which couldn't have hurt anything, but I'm not sure how much it helped.

I will also be ordering another Blade Master fan for a push/pull setup in a few days. So it's possible that along with a shroud would make a difference. Though I still feel like I'll need more of the little things to add up to a bigger drop.

The ambient temperature in my room is about 20C (68F, in case my conversion was wrong). Inside my case its about 30C, and from what I can tell, my airflow is laid out well. I just use the stock setup for my NZXT Tempest case.

I guess the TL;DR version is are there any other nuances I'm missing with this cooler that will help my temps get to a more acceptable level? Or am I just asking for too much out of my setup?

Thanks in advance for the help!
this should probably go to the intel cpu subforum
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/

iirc intel i7 will underclock/undervolt when it hits 90c
if you are using the stock cooler on it it will reach that very quickly
more volt = more heat and more stability
post #2349 of 6664
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireBot View Post
Hopefully this is an acceptable place to ask this (and sorry for the wall of text). I've lurked around here for years soaking in all the information, but I'm still stumped on this problem I'm having with my new 212+ cooler. So I decided to take the plunge and post.
That's with Intel Socket 775, 1155, and 1156 and on dual and quad core AMD cpus. An Intel Socket 1366 cpu and the six core AMD cpus simply overpower a 212+ when you push them that much so the chances of getting low temps and a 4GHz OC are rather slim. A second fan will only get you about 1 to 2C better temps. For what you want to do you really need to spend more money on a higher end cooling solution, and none of the All-In-One water cooling systems like the H50 would be enough to deal with it eather.
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post #2350 of 6664
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinesethunda View Post
how are the fans in your case set up? try a diagram in paint because that might be the biggest problem. pictures would be acceptable too. I am not familiar with your motherboard so idk how it handles OCs but your temps should not be that high if your ambient is 20C, because mine is 20C and load temps are around 60C

I have the nzxt phantom so please show how you have your case is set up
Here's my fan layout (it's horribly out of scale, but you'll get the idea):
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...fanlayout.jpg/

The top fan on the front is where my HDD is at, then the bottom fan in the front is completely unobstructed. That was something I switched around today just to try out. Normally both fans were near the bottom, with the HDD in front of the bottom-most one. I will probably just move them back to normal, unless you have another suggestion.

If you want to PM me about any of it, that might work better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ffejrxx
this should probably go to the intel cpu subforum
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/

iirc intel i7 will underclock/undervolt when it hits 90c
if you are using the stock cooler on it it will reach that very quickly
more volt = more heat and more stability
Sorry, my post was a little confusing. I should have left out the voltages maybe. I just knew they contributed to heat, so I thought it might be relevant to reference them. My goal was to get some more info on the cooler.


Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaSmurf
That's with Intel Socket 775, 1155, and 1156 and on dual and quad core AMD cpus. An Intel Socket 1366 cpu and the six core AMD cpus simply overpower a 212+ when you push them that much so the chances of getting low temps and a 4GHz OC are rather slim. A second fan will only get you about 1 to 2C better temps. For what you want to do you really need to spend more money on a higher end cooling solution, and none of the All-In-One water cooling systems like the H50 would be enough to deal with it eather.
I was afraid of that. I had actually never thought of processor type playing a role, so I'll remember to pay attention to that when I'm reading around. I was able to pick the 212+ up for $10, so I figured I couldn't lose by giving it a shot. I'll look around for some better ones tomorrow, and maybe make a thread with some of my other questions. I don't want to hijack this one anymore than I already have. I appreciate the information.
Edited by FireBot - 6/26/11 at 12:49am
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