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I'll be able to mount it no problem though because mine is using the plastic fan bracket.
Good. Problem solved:thumb:
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Got a 212 EVO being delivered this week.

A few questions before I become a fully fledged member:

  1. Is the best method for applying paste - 2 small lines, or pea shape?
  2. When fixing it to the mobo, I heard you should tighten each screw 3 turns at a time, going diagonally?
  3. Once I have finished fitting the cooler, a friend recommended doing a 24hr bench test to make sure the thermal paste is properly 'set in'?

Would appreciate some of your knowledge.
Cheers in advance.
Tom
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Got a 212 EVO being delivered this week.
A few questions before I become a fully fledged member:
  1. Is the best method for applying paste - 2 small lines, or pea shape?
  2. When fixing it to the mobo, I heard you should tighten each screw 3 turns at a time, going diagonally?
  3. Once I have finished fitting the cooler, a friend recommended doing a 24hr bench test to make sure the thermal paste is properly 'set in'?
Would appreciate some of your knowledge.
Cheers in advance.
Tom

1. Apply TIM is a small line on each of the pipes
2. you could tighten it 5 turns each, or even 7 but diagonally is the best way to go
3. doesn't matter, you can, or you can just start using it, if it starts being hot during normal use, then you know something is wrong.
you could always post your temps here after you are done for opinions, usually depending on your OC 60 ish load is okay
   
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I ordered a PWM splitter from amazon to set up a push/pull configuration on a 212+ that supposedly only had one lead with all 4 pins. However, It arrived today and both leads have all 4 wires. I assume this will lead to inaccurate rpm readings, so I'll have to cut one of the tachometer wires. My question for you guys; which wire do I cut? The green one?

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Edited by Infinite Jest - 6/13/12 at 1:48pm
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I ordered a PWM splitter from amazon to set up a push/pull configuration on a 212+ that supposedly only had one lead with all 4 pins. However, It arrived today and both leads have all 4 wires. I assume this will lead to inaccurate rpm readings, so I'll have to cut one of the tachometer wires. My question for you guys; which wire do I cut? The green one?
60f0a212-f93a-b5b0.jpg

BLACK: Negative
RED: Positive
YELLOW: Tacho
BLUE: PWM Control

Source: http://pcbheaven.com/wikipages/How_PC_Fans_Work/

don't take my word use source and i wanted to know same thing couple days ago smile.gif so the searching is done biggrin.gif
    
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I confirm that the yellow is tach and green is the PWM.
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So I'll need to cut the yellow wire on one to get just an accurate tach reading and appropriate speed for both (based on tach reading of one)?
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I confirm that the yellow is tach and green is the PWM.
This sounds legit smile.gif
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So I'll need to cut the yellow wire on one to get just an accurate tach reading and appropriate speed for both (based on tach reading of one)?

i don't know frown.gif

But i do know that it will run at full speed (MAYBE) if you use only red and black like a molex BUT since the PWM will regulate the voltage then it Might run at same speed as your pwm fan but you would not get full speed out of those two fans since they will share voltage and will never ramp up to higher speeds ?

Other Thoughts i would not do what you are about to do frown.gif because you can overload the motherboard fan header which was designed for one fan per header.

you might consider this you plug it into your power supply via molex and the other end you plug to the CPU fan header that only sends sense not power meaning you can use as many fans as supported by the split cables
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119248
if you look at the pictures for that cable it go's like this
BLACK: Negative
YELLOW: Positive
GREEN: Tacho
BLUE: PWM Control
you can see in the picture that only one fan has Tacho and the two other ones do not have Tacho
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If it's the OKGear splitter I am using the same one. Cut the yellow tacho on one of them. Leave the other one alone. You can now use the splitter but only with two identical fans, as different fans would have different tacho:voltage curves. So just make sure the fans are the same and you will be fine. My push-pull config is with two Blademaster 120mms for example, and the fan with a functional tacho (yellow) wire will tell the mobo that BOTH fans are spinning at that speed. Mobo/BIOS will then adjust speed accordingly via PWM.
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No, but just don't use a rear fan if you're orienting them that way.. It makes the air get "stuck" between the fans and makes it harder to push the air out the back, along with the motor on the rear fan wearing out faster, you'll also have a spare 120mm fan to use somewhere else! tongue.gif

A 120mm Blademaster will crush that Xigmatek if they are being used as HSF, where static pressure is much more important (pushing air into metal obstruction is a lot different than pushing air into air). A Bladmaster 120mm has something like 3.9mmH2O static pressure at max, one of the highest for any 120mmx120mmx25mm fan. It's nearly DOUBLE what a Gentle Typhoon AP-15 gives, IIRC. Of course it's also a sleeve-bearing fan and noisier, but it's cheap and gets the job done.

Besides, this is a thread about the Hyper 212+ so I assume budget matters. smile.gif

Side note: the 212 EVO comes with a XtraFlo 120mm, which is worse than the Blademaster 120mm that comes with the Hyper 212+. Yes you read that right. They upgraded the heatsink and downgraded the fan at the same time... it's still a net upgrade but it would have been slightly better to keep the same fan.

212+ Blademaster = 3.9mmH2O static pressure, high 70s cfm
212 EVO = 2.7mmH2O static pressure, low 80s cfm
Edited by unifiedshader - 6/13/12 at 4:47pm
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This sounds legit smile.gif
i don't know frown.gif
But i do know that it will run at full speed (MAYBE) if you use only red and black like a molex BUT since the PWM will regulate the voltage then it Might run at same speed as your pwm fan but you would not get full speed out of those two fans since they will share voltage and will never ramp up to higher speeds ?
Other Thoughts i would not do what you are about to do frown.gif because you can overload the motherboard fan header which was designed for one fan per header.
you might consider this you plug it into your power supply via molex and the other end you plug to the CPU fan header that only sends sense not power meaning you can use as many fans as supported by the split cables
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119248
if you look at the pictures for that cable it go's like this
BLACK: Negative
YELLOW: Positive
GREEN: Tacho
BLUE: PWM Control
you can see in the picture that only one fan has Tacho and the two other ones do not have Tacho


I just dusted off my p8p67 pro manual and found the CPU header supports up to 1 A draw. Each TY-140 has a maximum draw of .2 A @ 100% fan speed, so I assume I'd be in the clear as far as power draw is concerned. Can anyone else corroborate this?
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Originally Posted by unifiedshader View Post

If it's the OKGear splitter I am using the same one. Cut the yellow tacho on one of them. Leave the other one alone. You can now use the splitter but only with two identical fans, as different fans would have different tacho:voltage curves. So just make sure the fans are the same and you will be fine. My push-pull config is with two Blademaster 120mms for example, and the fan with a functional tacho (yellow) wire will tell the mobo that BOTH fans are spinning at that speed. Mobo/BIOS will then adjust speed accordingly via PWM.

The one I bought is indeed OKGear branded. I'll be using two TY-140s, so they'll be the same fan. I suppose I should remove the pin as well. Thanks!
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