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Originally Posted by mrtoyotaco View Post

Maybe you didn't see this....
http://www.overclock.net/t/632591/cooler-master-hyper-212-plus-club/4590#post_18201283
It directly compares the H100 to the 212. I was shocked myself. Everyone will get different results depending on testing variables, but it won't differ that much.

with these results i'd be more shocked at their overall testing procedure, because soemthing HAS to be wrong wink.gif
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I'll tie a thread to the heatsink to lift it up, that should balance the pressure distribution.
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with these results i'd be more shocked at their overall testing procedure, because soemthing HAS to be wrong wink.gif

That's the thing. It isn't. Now, granted that is with the H100 STOCK. You can add some better fans and achieve slightly better temps. Most people think a basic pre-purchased waterloop is MUCH MORE effective than a top of the line air cooler. And, well... It isn't. You are only going to see drastic changes when you can either 1)Lower ambient temps dramatically and 2) Use phase change / LN2 methods. Sure you may see 5C difference here and there. Maybe even 10C. Some people expect a lot more.
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I test coolers myself, and there IS a significant difference between an entry level cooler and a high end one. At a moderate OC it doesnt really come into play too much, but if you really turn on the heat, the differences get pretty significant.

Let me pull up some compeltely random reviews:

http://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/henry-butt/cooler-master-tpc-800-cpu-cooler-review/5/
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5Bprimary-term%5D/cooler_master_hyper_212_evo_review

in the first one we have a 26°C difference between the H100 and the TPC 800 wich is superiour to the 212
in the second one we have a 20°C diffrence between the 212+ and the Armageddon.
These results seem to be more realistic from my personal experience with dozens of different coolers.


and hey, i'm not trying to talk down on any product here, i hope everyone is happy with their cooler, but to say that there is essentially no difference between a 212 and a H80/SilverArrow/etc just seems wrong to me.
Edited by Elohim - 9/29/12 at 8:53am
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I was just about to agree with you... Maybe stock and mildly overclocked settings like the 4GHz area. But start pushing for 4.5 or 5 and the sort of voltages that come with those clocks and a water cooler should be able to come into it's own!
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Unfortunately I have no need for a water cooler on my Phenom because no matter how hard I try it seems my processor hits a wall at 4.26. But I will consider a mid range water set up for a Piledriver FX in six months time or so!
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honestly: to get a cheaper cooler like a 212 and maybe not get the highest OC possible is the smart thing to do.
But another reason to get a bigger and more expensive heatpipe based cooler would be the possibility to get better results at lower fan speeds and therefore less noise.

but now BTT, sorry.
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Yeah I am also surprised that EVO hasn't worked out for you! It's keeping my Phenom 2 cool and happy at 4.24GHz! Loads at about 55C!
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Yea, my FX has been quite a journey. I could never even do a regular OCCT test with temps getting way too hot. If core temps get to 60 or above I get quite uncomfortable. I fixed up some voltages and did manage to get it to a low voltage at a stable 3.8. I can test and it runs hot, but slightly under 60 degree core temps. The CPU itself never had heat issues otherwise, though it stayed between 35-50 degrees. The most intensive thing I did with it was render videos. That'd put it around 55 degrees cpu temp, which isn't bad for a cpu temp.
I'm quite curious to see if having an H100 will finally let me make more use of my 8120. I want a stable 4.2ghz at least, though I really wanna push it to 4.5 and beyond. We'll see what happens, fingers crossed.
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You might have just recieved a really stubborn chip. Those 1 in a 100 chips that just don't like to overclock!

You guys forgot a really important thing. The Phenom is a quad and the 8120 is an Octo.
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That's the thing. It isn't. Now, granted that is with the H100 STOCK. You can add some better fans and achieve slightly better temps. Most people think a basic pre-purchased waterloop is MUCH MORE effective than a top of the line air cooler. And, well... It isn't. You are only going to see drastic changes when you can either 1)Lower ambient temps dramatically and 2) Use phase change / LN2 methods. Sure you may see 5C difference here and there. Maybe even 10C. Some people expect a lot more.

I disagree on that fan part. The stock fan that comes with the H100 has some AMAZING static pressure numbers, seven mmH2O at full speed.
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Guys just a quick question. Is there software similar to MSI's Afterburner that can control the fan speed settings on the motherboard? Cause I have set my Smart Fan settings to aim for 40C but still my fans on the 212 sit at around 70% when at 50C and around 80% when at 55C. By the time I get to that temperature I want to be running at 100% cause Phenoms are the most stable below 55C.

SpeedFan is quite popular. But if you can't control a fan in one program, typically it's not going to in another. A lot of motherboards have one that is controllable and one that is not. Then there are some high end ones that has all and then there are some low end ones where there's none. It should be in the manual.
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