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Sorry. I just grow tired of people obviously showing they are incapable of maintaining concentration for more than 5 letters. It is the most wanna be hipster way of saying the post wasn't important enough to warrant actually reading. Well, these are called forums, and words and sentences are what forums are for. If you don't want to give up the time to read it, then just leave.
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Sorry. I just grow tired of people obviously showing they are incapable of maintaining concentration for more than 5 letters. It is the most wanna be hipster way of saying the post wasn't important enough to warrant actually reading. Well, these are called forums, and words and sentences are what forums are for. If you don't want to give up the time to read it, then just leave.

totally agree with that. nicely said thumb.gif
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My apologies for the acronym. I just don't appreciate it when people say I said things and fill my mouth with words that I did not say. Anywho... On with the thread...
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Starting off, I'm posting this info so that people who are thinking about switching over can get an idea of what to expect. I used the EVO and it wasn't working out for me. Got myself an H100 for cheap and someone asked for some temp comparisons. This is NOT to bash 212, this is for anyone like me who felt their 212 unit isn't working out for them and may be looking elsewhere.

Alright guys here we go. H100 has been installed, it wasn't easy but I managed biggrin.gif For reference I'm using an NZXT Phantom case two 200mm fans up top. One silent fan in the back top running 700rpm, one performance fan in top front running at low speed. It can go up to high speed 1300rpm I believe. I have mounted the radiator underneath said 200mm fans, with two ap-15s pushing the air upwards towards the pull fans. H100 is set to performance mode, level 3. My Evo ran in a push and pull config using the ap-15s. CPU is FX-8120.

CPU 3.8ghz 1.24 idle to light load. Youtube videos at 1080p, etc.

Evo: Idle temp at at fans full speed 33-37 degrees under light load. Core temps at around 20 degrees each.

H100: Idle temp with fans at low speed 31-34 degrees under light load. Core temps at 16 degrees. (Notice that this is at low speed, fan speeds adjust to temps)

CPU 3.8ghz 1.24v under OCCT stress test. Both tests ran for just 30 minutes.

Evo: CPU temp ranging from 58-63 degrees at full speed each fan. Core temps baseline at around low 50s and rise over time to high 50s, would often raise up and then lower. Thus keeping inbetween max temp and lower temp. At time of recording, 58 degree core temp. CPU temp seemed to stay between 60-63.

H100: CPU temp topped out between 52-55 degrees at low speed. Core temps between 36-40 degrees, staying at 37 for the most part. That in my opinion is solid, my system also seems to be decently quieter than before.

Further testing: 4.2ghz at 1.32vcore (could probably play around with that voltage a bit... Don't think it needs to be that high for 4.2) 222 bus speed, 19.0 CPU multiplier. 1 hour OCCT test Max CPU temp 61 degrees. Tends to stay around 59. Core max at 48, stays around 44. A 4.5 stable seems unlikely, my chip still is a hot son of a gun. When I get to 1.4+vcore things get a bit too warm at times. I'll play around and see if I can get to 4.3-4 however.

Edit 1: So, oopsie biggrin.gif It seems that the fan controller on my H100 doesn't work. No matter what configuration it's at the fans stay at the same speed. Turns out all those temps are with fans running at low speed. Good thing I have this lovely NZXT phantom case (love it) that has a built in fan controller. I decided to disconnect the two side fans from the control and plug in my ap-15s instead. Now I have manual speed. I doubt it'd make a huge difference however next time I stress test I'll have fans set on high. I'm tempted to toss on OCCT and see if there is a difference. We'll see.

Temps are relatively close at idle under 3.8ghz. Under OCCT stress test we can see that while CPU temp stayed a decent 5-10 degrees cooler. Core temps were the big story staying under 40 degrees. That's a 20 degree difference compared to air cooling. And that, my friend, seems to be a pretty good result thumb.gif

For reference again, 3.8ghz is about the best I could manage with the temps I got. The FX series recommends core temps stay under 62 degrees, give or take some room. With my Evo I was barely hovering under that. I'll update with higher OCs and temps to go along with it.
Edited by Xerosnake90 - 9/29/12 at 11:44pm
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That's a 20 degree difference compared to air cooling.

better yet "...compared to the 212" wink.gif

thx for your effort.
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better yet "...compared to the 212" wink.gif
thx for your effort.

You are right! Thank you for catching that, once again apologies for cluttering up the pages with senseless arguing. I think the tests speak for themself biggrin.gif
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sorry i was away for the weekend, but yeah stop arguing, anyways I know the 212+ is a great cooler, as much as i love the cooler and the family of coolers, it really can't stand up to a higher end air cooler or water cooler, i personally tested 2 separate rigs with both the 212+ and the H100, the H100 can allow the user to overclock higher and the main thing is, it keeps the MAX load temps down, on a regular basis, doing regular things on a day to day basis, it might not make much of a difference, both will perform equally well, but when you get to a higher OC and a higher load usage, that's when the higher end coolers start to pull their weight.

using personal experience as backup
i have 2 i5s and my watercooling setup and my 212+ had both cooled my chips equally during daily use and even during gaming, average TOAs etc, but when i start doing some heavy cpu usage tasks, my 212+ got really hot, upper 70s while the WC kept it around mid 50s to low 60s.

Anyways, i read through the posts i missed, i don't think anyone needed to be added, but PM me if i missed adding people
Edited by chinesethunda - 9/30/12 at 5:23am
   
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I am a bit cofused. What is the difference between "core temp" and "cpu temp"? Is this something AMD does differently from Intel?
Xerosnake90, what was the ambient temperature while conducting your tests?
Edited by Ramsey77 - 9/30/12 at 7:19am
 
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I am a bit cofused. What is the difference between "core temp" and "cpu temp"? Is this something AMD does differently from Intel?
Xerosnake90, what was the ambient temperature while conducting your tests?

I'll flip that around and say I don't know about what Intel does with temps. AMD cpus tend to have two reading. CPU temp is measured as a total of the entire unit. Core temps are each individual core. Since I'm on the 8120 and it has '8' cores, each core has seperate temps. It's been debated about which matters, though it seems widely accepted that cpu temp means very little. Core temps are to not exceed 62 degrees each on the FX series.

Not sure what ambient temps were, my room is the hottest in the house.
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I'll flip that around and say I don't know about what Intel does with temps. AMD cpus tend to have two reading. CPU temp is measured as a total of the entire unit. Core temps are each individual core. Since I'm on the 8120 and it has '8' cores, each core has seperate temps. It's been debated about which matters, though it seems widely accepted that cpu temp means very little. Core temps are to not exceed 62 degrees each on the FX series.
Not sure what ambient temps were, my room is the hottest in the house.

I don't think your core temp is being read right by whatever program is reading it. 16c is only 60F and there is no way that you have sub ambient temps with any type of air cooling, it's just not possible. That is why I asked what your ambient temps were. Something isn't right. Your CPU temps seem to be reading just fine though.
 
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