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I don't think your core temp is being read right by whatever program is reading it. 16c is only 60F and there is no way that you have sub ambient temps with any type of air cooling, it's just not possible. That is why I asked what your ambient temps were. Something isn't right. Your CPU temps seem to be reading just fine though.

I am kind of wondering the same? With water cooling and air cooling, atleast from what I have read, it is pretty much impossible to get temps of cpu below ambient room temperatures.

If i am wrong, someone please correct me.

Also, where are your pictures man? Testing isn't anything without proof of pictures. thumb.gif
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Well, AMD core temps are not the actual temperatures of the chip. That doesn't mean that they aren't consistent though.
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post #4743 of 6633
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I don't think your core temp is being read right by whatever program is reading it. 16c is only 60F and there is no way that you have sub ambient temps with any type of air cooling, it's just not possible. That is why I asked what your ambient temps were. Something isn't right. Your CPU temps seem to be reading just fine though.

You guys do know that the temperature diode in processors get more and more inaccurate as the temperature drops right??
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post #4744 of 6633
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I am kind of wondering the same? With water cooling and air cooling, atleast from what I have read, it is pretty much impossible to get temps of cpu below ambient room temperatures.
If i am wrong, someone please correct me.
Also, where are your pictures man? Testing isn't anything without proof of pictures. thumb.gif

Why of course biggrin.gif

3.8ghz Evo. Stopped the test at 32 minutes, as you can see the temps kept going up. CPU core temps. Fan full speed.



3.8ghz Evo CPU temp. Fan full speed.



3.8ghz H100. I originally had done the test for 30 minutes but the results seem to not have been saved. So here's a quick 10 minute test. From the 4.2 ghz we see there isn't a massive difference in temps as time goes on. CPU core temps. Fan low speed.



3.8ghz H100 CPU temp. Fan low speed



4.2ghz H100 1 hour test CPU temp. Ignore that crazy spike at the end, OCCT is a bit loopy at times and spikes around. Fan low speed



4.2ghz H100 1 hour core temp. Don't need to bother posting the rest, they all look like this! Fan low speed.



Hope that's sufficient! The thing I'm most impressed by is that the H100 was running on low fan speed. Once again I doubt it'd make a HUGE difference in keeping temps down farther than low speed. Still nice to have a quieter system though.
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post #4745 of 6633
Is the 212+ worth getting over like... gelid tranquillo? I have 3570k, not planing to overclock anytime soon, maybe in year or so. I want my cpu fan to be silent and not let the temps go to 65C under load.
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post #4746 of 6633
Why buy one now and than a year from now need a better one to overclock?
A good cooling can be a long term investment.
General rule is bigger is better is cooler is quieter.

Running Phanteks PH-TC14PE on i7 920 @ 3.55GHz. 97-100% load @ 48-52c @ 955-1035rpm. Only sound is very quiet sound of air. biggrin.gif

At idle 30c @ 670-700rpm.... Can't hear a thing. thumb.gif
post #4747 of 6633
So CPU temperature is the temp to worry about not core temp correct?

Correct me if I am wrong AMD nerds... Im an Intel geek...tongue.gif

Got this from another board:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
What is "Core Temp" ?

"Core Temp" is what AMD refers to as "TCTL" and is a non-physical temperature on an arbitrary scale measured in degrees. It does not represent an actual physical temperature like die or case temperature.

What is "CPU Temp" ?

"CPU Temp" is read by a sensor in the socket of the motherboard.
It is a physical temperature and therefore will be effected by ambient temps inside the case.

Why should I use "Core Temp" and when?

AMD designed this equation to accurately read peak (45C+) and load temps. It has an equational offset to determine said temps which equalizes at 45C. Since it's designed for peak temps and is a non-physical temperature it cannot read idle temps or account for ambient temps correctly.

So what is "CPU Temp" good for then?

At peak temps this value is typically 7-10C higher (depending on motherboard) than the actual temp due to it being a physical sensor. At idle it's a little more accurate, but still not dead on, and besides idle temps do not matter near as much as load temps do.
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post #4748 of 6633
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Originally Posted by mrtoyotaco View Post

So CPU temperature is the temp to worry about not core temp correct?
Correct me if I am wrong AMD nerds... Im an Intel geek...tongue.gif
Got this from another board: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
What is "Core Temp" ?
"Core Temp" is what AMD refers to as "TCTL" and is a non-physical temperature on an arbitrary scale measured in degrees. It does not represent an actual physical temperature like die or case temperature.
What is "CPU Temp" ?
"CPU Temp" is read by a sensor in the socket of the motherboard.
It is a physical temperature and therefore will be effected by ambient temps inside the case.
Why should I use "Core Temp" and when?
AMD designed this equation to accurately read peak (45C+) and load temps. It has an equational offset to determine said temps which equalizes at 45C. Since it's designed for peak temps and is a non-physical temperature it cannot read idle temps or account for ambient temps correctly.
So what is "CPU Temp" good for then?
At peak temps this value is typically 7-10C higher (depending on motherboard) than the actual temp due to it being a physical sensor. At idle it's a little more accurate, but still not dead on, and besides idle temps do not matter near as much as load temps do.

While I have seen many answers, it seems to be general consensus that core temps are what you want to look out for. There are a few more thread out there that explain AMD temps and this and that. As far as I know, I get a warning when my cpu goes above 65 degrees. If performance is hit I'm not sure, however I'm more than happy to keep it under that either way.
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While I have seen many answers, it seems to be general consensus that core temps are what you want to look out for. There are a few more thread out there that explain AMD temps and this and that. As far as I know, I get a warning when my cpu goes above 65 degrees. If performance is hit I'm not sure, however I'm more than happy to keep it under that either way.

Got ya.
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post #4750 of 6633
Well HW monitor which is what I use to monitor temps only gives me core temps. So I don't really know where else to look for this "other" temp. But because it isn't important I am not to worried.
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