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post #911 of 6664
The Hyper 212+ is a Heatpipe Direct Contact so the two or three line method is normally the best way to go. It depends on the number of heatpipes as to how many lines is required, but the 212+ has 4. See the bottom method on this guide. The single drop or line of TIM in the middle rarely works on them.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=5

That said, I did some experimenting with my Hyper 212+'s and am having my best results using a credit card to cram a bit into the crevices then spreading a light coat over the entire surface of the heatsink base and not putting any directly on the cpu's IHS. Cramming some into the crevices between the heat pipes and the heatsink base surface is the key though. If you don't you tend to get air bubbles that prevent optimal heat transfer.
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I find IC Diamond 7 rather thick and a little difficult to spread over the metal surface. It actually took me more or less half an hour to get the paste on close to evenly... It's my 1st time though... the temps has dropped a bit at stock speed from at best 26C to a solid 25C... after I overclocked the lowest I see is 26C and not higher than 43C under load.

I think this is nice and I'm glad for getting 1C Diamond 7 to replace the Shin Etsu on my H-50.

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Hey guys,

I have a Hyper 212 Plus on the way which I'm rather excited about as a belated X-mas gift from a friend to replace the stock cooler I'm using.

I've got two Gentle Typhoon AP-14s lying about I plan on using in push/pull. They've worked wonders before as heatsink fans at a low noise level but have any of you personally used them with the Hyper 212?
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Originally Posted by ocman View Post
I find IC Diamond 7 rather thick and a little difficult to spread over the metal surface. It actually took me more or less half an hour to get the paste on close to evenly... It's my 1st time though... the temps has dropped a bit at stock speed from at best 26C to a solid 25C... after I overclocked the lowest I see is 26C and not higher than 43C under load.

I think this is nice and I'm glad for getting 1C Diamond 7 to replace the Shin Etsu on my H-50.

PapaSmurf, can I still become a member of this club if I own a CM Hyper 212+?
It's not my club so I don't make the final decision, but since it is the Hyper 212+ club I don't see why not. It doesn't matter if you refer to it as the 212+ or 212 Plus, it all amounts to the same thing.

I'm using IC Diamond 7 on mine as well. I didn't find mine to be that thick or difficult to work with, but I'm been using Arctic Cooling MX-2 and MX-3 for several years which have a similar consistency so I'm used to working with it. What I tend to do is warm it up by placing it in direct sunlight on a window sill, place it on a heating vent in cold weather, or with a hair dryer before I apply it to make it easier to work with.
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Hi RyuTakezaki, can I join this club? Thanks!
     
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I got my CM Hyper 12 + today and it's really dropped the CPU idle temp from my previous cooler, the Blue Orb.

I just put a blob of pea size thermal paste in the center and I'm idling at about 30degrees Celsius.
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That sometimes works, but for the most part it doesn't work nearly as well as the method posted preciously. But that sounds high to me, but idle temps are basically meaningless especially without knowing what the ambient room temps are. 30C is 10c above the average room temp of 68-70F. Plus without knowing the hardware it's installed on it's impossible to know how good that is. You need to click on the User CP at the top of this page, then scroll down the left side to the Add System link and enter in your system specs in as much detail as possible. By that I mean 2 x 2gig G.Skil PC2-8500 CL5 ram instead of 4 gig ram, etc. That way we have some idea of what we are dealing with.
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I guess I'll post my concerns about my system here, since I have a CM Hyper 212+. I have my i7 950 OC'ed to 4.095 gHz at 1.3v. RealTemp readings at idle are: 45 44 45 41. Ambient temp is 72* F. I have two fans on the Hyper 212+ in push/pull, a 120mm on the rear of the case blowing air out, and a 120mm on the front of the case in a pull config. Can't put a 120mm on the side, due to the height of the Hyper 212+, but may look into getting perhaps an 80mm to put on it. Under Prime95 load (small FFT), I'm getting up to 73C. I know it's not horrible, but it's higher than I'd like. Any suggestions?
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A fan on the side panel won't do anything to help at all. If anything it will make things worse. All it will be doing is blowing air onto the top of the heatsink and the fans instead of into the the fins. If it has any effect at all it will be to disrupt the airflow into the heatsink fan. Don't waste your time worrying about it.

Based on what I know of the i7 950's you are actually getting better temps than I would have expected under those conditions. I've seen higher load temps with better heatsinks. As for idle temps, they are meaningless and quite often inaccurate. You might want to check out some of the i7 overclocking threads here at OCN to see what they have to say about those temps, but I think you are fine and would need to spend $60 or more to do any better, and then probably only a couple of degrees better.
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf View Post
A fan on the side panel won't do anything to help at all. If anything it will make things worse. All it will be doing is blowing air onto the top of the heatsink and the fans instead of into the the fins. If it has any effect at all it will be to disrupt the airflow into the heatsink fan. Don't waste your time worrying about it.

Based on what I know of the i7 950's you are actually getting better temps than I would have expected under those conditions. I've seen higher load temps with better heatsinks. As for idle temps, they are meaningless and quite often inaccurate. You might want to check out some of the i7 overclocking threads here at OCN to see what they have to say about those temps, but I think you are fine and would need to spend $60 or more to do any better, and then probably only a couple of degrees better.
I've been reading some of the i7 threads, but hadn't paid enough attention to the temps people were encountering. Thanks for the advice though, I won't worry about a side fan. I wish this case had better ventilation at the front for the fan there, doesn't let much air in.

One other question that I forgot...

Will the fans run at 100% if I use the 4-pin molex connectors instead of the 3-pin one that comes on them?
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