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post #1 of 14
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http://www.pugetsystems.com/aquarium_both_module.php

Jesus that looks really cool... If the price was, say, $200 lower I would jump on that without any hesitation. Alas, that isn't the case...



Anyone have any experience with this particular kit, or this subject for that matter?

I really want to try it and keep it as my primary desktop (see below; my primary computer). 100% silent computer? <50C overall temperature under load for 2+ weeks on a computer that's OC'd as well as high performance (Intel QX9770 CPU, 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM, NVIDIA GTX280)? *drool*


I guess the only issue will be for me to buy a rather large heatsink (like those Thermaltake ones; they're freaking huge) and replace the water block I have currently, and hope the components won't break due to mechanical failure, since warranty will be voided due to submersion in Mineral Oil (assuming mineral oil isn't the cause of failure; which apparently it can't be >.>).

Upgrading this thing will be a ***** though... lol
Edited by nyforever - 12/27/09 at 3:11pm
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post #2 of 14
Look at their little image. See the quad radiator? Even if you have dumped your PC in oil, you still need to remove all the heat it produces, otherwise it will just get hotter and hotter.

It's almost impossible to make a 100% silent pc.
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post #3 of 14
They tried this out in an episode of system.
http://revision3.com/systm/oilcooling
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post #4 of 14
You can see what they are including, so why don't you look up the parts and find them for cheaper?

I bet you could.
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Just think of resetting the bios, or adding a hard drive, or taking your PC apart... all of these easy tasks would be huge ordeals in that system. Plus, for the price of that system you could easily get a very high end watercooling kit which would perform much better.

On top of that you will void the warranty on every piece of hardware in your rig, not just the parts that you are overclocking.
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post #6 of 14
You could try the GlobalWin Jefi. Then laugh.
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I don't think it's worth it, I would rather Air cool before this...

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WARNING: Submerging your hardware in mineral oil will void your warranty. Do this project only at your own risk. Puget Systems is not liable for any hardware problems, or damage to your personal property. Minerial oil is very difficult, if not impossible to clean from your components once they are submerged.
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Just think of resetting the bios, or adding a hard drive, or taking your PC apart... all of these easy tasks would be huge ordeals in that system. Plus, for the price of that system you could easily get a very high end watercooling kit which would perform much better.

On top of that you will void the warranty on every piece of hardware in your rig, not just the parts that you are overclocking.
That does seem to be the most PITA aspect of oil cooling, but actually, the cooling results would not be as you would imagine. I have been doing extensive research on this, and it seems to be that oil cooling outperforms water cooling by any measure at this point.

It's sorta difficult to measure as well, since the absolute baseline for any cooling performance is highly depended upon ambient temps, but as far as cooling goes, oil cooling is only 2nd to LN2 or Phase...
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post #9 of 14
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That does seem to be the most PITA aspect of oil cooling, but actually, the cooling results would not be as you would imagine. I have been doing extensive research on this, and it seems to be that oil cooling outperforms water cooling by any measure at this point.

It's sorta difficult to measure as well, since the absolute baseline for any cooling performance is highly depended upon ambient temps, but as far as cooling goes, oil cooling is only 2nd to LN2 or Phase...
This is due to the sheer volume of mineral oil used in comparison to a water cooled system. The properties of water give it the ability to be a much more efficient coolant than mineral oil, namely the specific heat which is 4.18 Joules/g*K for water and 1.67 Joules/g*K. Basically it means water can absorb 2.5 times more energy (ie. heat) before raising a degree Celcius in comparison to mineral oil (assuming equal volumes).

If you were to cool a PC with a reservoir of say 6 gallons instead of 200mL (not sure what the average WC system uses?), then it would cool the parts far better than the mineral oil.
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This is due to the sheer volume of mineral oil used in comparison to a water cooled system. The properties of water give it the ability to be a much more efficient coolant than mineral oil, namely the specific heat which is 4.18 Joules/g*K for water and 1.67 Joules/g*K. Basically it means water can absorb 2.5 times more energy (ie. heat) before raising a degree Celcius in comparison to mineral oil (assuming equal volumes).

If you were to cool a PC with a reservoir of say 6 gallons instead of 200mL (not sure what the average WC system uses?), then it would cool the parts far better than the mineral oil.
Nuh uh, that only works out when you first turn the PC on. After it's been circulating for a while, and has got to peak, the temperature is roughly the same, because the aquarium/bucket is not an effective radiator.
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