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So is there really no difference between the 3700 and 4000+. I'm glad it didn't cost me but I'm a bit surprised as they are marketed as different cpus. Either way for the money it didn't matter to me but it would be nice if the 4000 was a boost over the 3700.

And yes I eagerly look forward to my second 7800GT!
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I know you mentioned you didn't go opteron because you didn't know much about them. But all you really needed to know is that they OWN. They are pretty much san diego's, but overclock wayyy more...and are built with higher quality components being server chips. Oh, and you would have saved some extra cash. Either way, I hope your daughter takes this knowledge shes learning and applies it to her future, she's got a great start !!
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Originally Posted by tytlyf
I know you mentioned you didn't go opteron because you didn't know much about them. But all you really needed to know is that they OWN. They are pretty much san diego's, but overclock wayyy more...and are built with higher quality components being server chips. Oh, and you would have saved some extra cash. Either way, I hope your daughter takes this knowledge shes learning and applies it to her future, she's got a great start !!
Can you back up any of these statements? OCs on Opterons vary just like their San Diego counterparts. Saying they have higher quality components isn't true,either. Haven't you noticed that they perform a little bit slower at equal clock speeds? That tells you that either the memory controller has had it's settings relaxed or the cpu cache has been relaxed. If you want to claim that Opterons "own" San Diegos, provide some info backing up your claim because it's simply not true. On this forum, there is a 3 ghz San Diego on air stable, that would provide more performance than any Opteron I've seen on air cooling. IMO, you can't put either ahead because it all comes down to the individual chip and stepping and neither are a clear cut winner overall.
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So is there really no difference between the 3700 and 4000+. I'm glad it didn't cost me but I'm a bit surprised as they are marketed as different cpus.
That's precisely why they make cpus the way that they do. They design one core chip and then lock multipliers to sell processors at different price points. It's a lot cheaper than designing and manufacturing several chips. The only difference between the 3700 and 4000 is that the 3700 has had it's 12X cpu multiplier locked at the factory. To an overclocker, this makes no difference because you want to increase your fsb and use a 10X multiplier. (10.5 or 11 MAYBE, but not a 12x) The reasoning being that you'll reach the physical limitations of the San Diego core before you'd use a 12X multiplier. 3ghz is about the limit on air max, so using 300 fsb X 10 would be faster than using 250 fsb X 12, even though both are 3ghz. Make sense?
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Received my 4000+ Athlon and BFG 7800GT OC today. (I had a 3700+ and 2 6600GT's SLI). I intend to pick up a second 7800GT for SLI in a couple of months. My second rig is now going to have a 3700+, 6600GT SLI, Asus premium and a 36 GB Raptor. My nine year old is really excited about having SLI. She's not sure what it is but I told her that her benches are going to increase dramatically. She gave me the "I think my dad is medicated" look.

Anyhow, benches to follow.
Thats great she lucky to have a dad like you. I think children should have pc,s at a young age the world is so dependant on them now
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