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Hey guys, I'm building my first rig and wanted to get impressions on my choices for this build:

Case: Enermax Chakra
PSU: Enermax Galaxy EVO 1200W
Mobo: MSI NF980-G65 (AM3 with SLI)
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE (125W)
CPU Cooler: XIGMATEK Dark Knight S1283V
Case fans: 2x Scythe DFS123812 ULTRA KAZE
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline DDR3-1600 (PC3 12800) 7-7-7-20 1.85-1.95V stock timings
GPU Array: 2x Gigabyte GV-N275SO-181 (Super-overclocked 1792mb 715MHz GTX 275) in SLI and PNY XLR8 9800GT for physics
HDD: 2x Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3Gb/S (thinking about RAID... should I RAID1 or RAID0?)
Optical Drive: Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD RW SATA AD-7240S-0B (should I throw in a BD-burner too?)
Misc toys: Rosewill RNX-N300X PCI wireless b/g/n adapter; AZiO BTD-V201 USB 2.0 micro blutooth adapter (will sit on an internal bluetooth header); SYBA PCI USB 2.0 & 1394a combo card SD-COMBO-02
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I see you're an Nvidia guy.. if this isn't set in stone you could crossfire two 5770 on a different motherboard and get slightly lower performance, but better features. You could afterwards use a 9800GT for Physics along with the Xfire.
About the discs, what do you think of an SSD (OCZ Agility 60GB or Intel x25M 80GB) and a single 1.5 or 2TB drive? RAID-0 is for speed, RAID1 is for security, you choose what you need. However a RAID-0 can't beat the speed of an SSD, so it makes little sense overall.
BD-ROMs seem yet overpriced, so it depends if you need one. I'd stay with regular DVD writers for another years or so until BD writers come down in price.

Great first build, enjoy.
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Hi dragosmp,

Thanks for the reply. What do you mean by more features wit the ATI build?

Also, what are the implication of using a relatively small SSD for the OS disk and a large drive for storage? I mean... do I install to the SSD and keep data on the large disk or...? And what does that mean for performance?
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Originally Posted by BigMak911 View Post
Hey guys, I'm building my first rig and wanted to get impressions on my choices for this build:

Case: Enermax Chakra
PSU: Enermax Galaxy EVO 1200W
Mobo: MSI NF980-G65 (AM3 with SLI)
Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE (125W)
CPU Cooler: XIGMATEK Dark Knight S1283V
Case fans: 2x Scythe DFS123812 ULTRA KAZE
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline DDR3-1600 (PC3 12800) 7-7-7-20 1.85-1.95V stock timings
GPU Array: 2x Gigabyte GV-N275SO-181 (Super-overclocked 1792mb 715MHz GTX 275) in SLI and PNY XLR8 9800GT for physics
HDD: 2x Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3Gb/S (thinking about RAID... should I RAID1 or RAID0?)
Optical Drive: Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD RW SATA AD-7240S-0B (should I throw in a BD-burner too?)
Misc toys: Rosewill RNX-N300X PCI wireless b/g/n adapter; AZiO BTD-V201 USB 2.0 micro blutooth adapter (will sit on an internal bluetooth header); SYBA PCI USB 2.0 & 1394a combo card SD-COMBO-02

Nvidia is a rip off compared to ATI. You can get 2 5850's for that price and rip apart that GTX 275 config. PhysX isn't really needed. Its going away soon if it doesn't open up for ATI to use it.

Switch the MB to an AMD Xfire MB.

The PSU is way overkill. A 850 watt high quality PSU can handle that easily.

Other than that real nice build
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Nvidia is a rip off compared to ATI. You can get 2 5850's for that price and rip apart that GTX 275 config. PhysX isn't really needed. Its going away soon if it doesn't open up for ATI to use it.

Switch the MB to an AMD Xfire MB.

The PSU is way overkill. A 850 watt high quality PSU can handle that easily.

Other than that real nice build
Thanks for the reply! Thing is though, the 275s were gifts from friends for the holidays and the 9800 I had from before, so that fact dictated buying the SLI motherboard.

Anyway... I've never tried to overclock a system before, but am interesed in trying it on this one since, by definition, BE cpus should be good at it. With a dark knigt cooler on it, what's a good place to start with OCing? Should I OC ONLY the cpu, or play with the memory and/or video cards as well?

Lastly, anyone have any exprience with AMD's GUI OCing tool? http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_overdrive.aspx
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Originally Posted by BigMak911 View Post
Thanks for the reply! Thing is though, the 275s were gifts from friends for the holidays and the 9800 I had from before, so that fact dictated buying the SLI motherboard.

Anyway... I've never tried to overclock a system before, but am interesed in trying it on this one since, by definition, BE cpus should be good at it. With a dark knigt cooler on it, what's a good place to start with OCing? Should I OC ONLY the cpu, or play with the memory and/or video cards as well?

Lastly, anyone have any exprience with AMD's GUI OCing tool? http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_overdrive.aspx
Ahh Sweet. The 275s definitely have good power. Its not like they are bad cards.

Messed w/ AOD for a lil bit, but ocing for a long time has got me used to BIOS. However AOD is the most popular means to OC an AMD CPU and it is preferred by almost all hardware sites.

Overclocking your CPU will definitely help increase the performance of your SLI GTX 275

Overclocking a BE CPU is super easy. Increase the CPU multiplier till it crashes. Then up the Vcore to make it stable and start increasing again.

Once you have a good overclock (refer to a nice thorough google search to see the average settings people have used). You need to stress test your CPU to make sure its stable. OCCT is an all purpose stress tool. You can use that. Make sure to observe your CPU temperatures. AMD CPUs typically breakdown at about 80 C.

Try to keep it much lower than that.

GL

I did some research and typical over clocks have been about 4-4.2 GHz @ 1.45-1.5v Vcore. Try to keep your Vcore @ or below 1.5v


As far as overclocking your GTX 275s you can do that also. Rivatuner is a great tool to overclock. I had a GTX 260 and with a good overclock you can get up to GTX 280-285 performance levels.

However, I would not recommend it unless you need to. I think with 2 GTX 275s in SLI you will have tons of power.

If ya need any additional help or explanation let me know.
Edited by coupe - 1/7/10 at 9:36pm
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