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will you do the honours omari...


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may i suggest adding the PHP code i pm'd you on the OP like other clubs have done?
will do
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How to get that E5300 overclocking club on my sig?
Got to your CP -> signature

Then copy and past what Ch33z PMs you (sorry Ch33z..i deleted all the in/out PMs
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Still trying to get this stable (and maybe push it up a bit).

Omari, here's what you answered to my post, pages back:
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I'm using an Asus P5QPL-VM-EPU mobo. It has the latest BIOS version (0407).

I'm not sure where/what some of those things you are asking for are, so, I copied a couple of the BIOS pages:

DRAM [AUTO] (833 MHz, 1000 MHz as options) (whats your RAM default speed and voltage?)

Memory Voltage [AUTO] (never leave on auto, whats your RAM default voltage?)
NB Voltage [AUTO] (never leave on auto...you should set it to 1.2v)
SB 1.5 Voltage 1.5 V (good)
CPU VTT 1.2 V (good)
CPU Over Voltage [AUTO] (50, 100, 150) (what is this option?) the settings are very strange)
Auto PSI Enabled (what does this do?)
---------
CPU Over Voltage 1.272V (is this CPU v value in the bios or in CPU-Z)
3.3V Voltage 3.392V
5V Voltage 5.043V
12V Voltage 12.355V

Where do I see "V Drop" in CPU-Z?
Here's what I'm looking to try tonight:

My RAM is here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-216-_-Product
and here: http://www.crucial.com/store/partspe...2KIT25664AR80A

So:
Quote:
DRAM [AUTO] (833 MHz, 1000 MHz as options) (whats your RAM default speed and voltage?)
Memory Voltage [AUTO] (never leave on auto, whats your RAM default voltage?)
Would I go with 833 MHz in the BIOS for my RAM, and 2.0 for Memory Voltage?

Next:
Quote:
CPU Over Voltage [AUTO] (50, 100, 150) (what is this option?) the settings are very strange)
Auto PSI Enabled (what does this do?)
I don't actually know what these are, either. That's how they're listed in my BIOS. :l

Those other options (3.3 Voltage, 5 Voltage, etc.) are on another page in the BIOS.

EDIT: Well, changed the Memory Voltage to 2.01V (or whatever it was that was closest to 2.0 in my Bios), and I changed DRAM to the 833 MHz. Also tried 1000 MHz. They both load fine. Didn't do testing on them. (I'm back at the 833 MHz. Still at 250 FSB and 3.2 GHz...I'd like to know what's next?
Edited by digdoug - 2/8/10 at 9:59pm
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http://www.crucial.com/store/partspe...2KIT25664AR80A

So:


Would I go with 833 MHz in the BIOS for my RAM, and 2.0 for Memory Voltage?
Your Ram is PC2-6400, so 800Mhz @ 2.0v is your default try to stay close to 800Mhz but if you get 850-900Mhz bump the voltage to 2.1 or 2.2v

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Next:


I don't actually know what these are, either. That's how they're listed in my BIOS. :l

Those other options (3.3 Voltage, 5 Voltage, etc.) are on another page in the BIOS.
those are for the 3.3+ and 5+ rails...you can't modify them but if you can...DON'T

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EDIT: Well, changed the Memory Voltage to 2.01V (or whatever it was that was closest to 2.0 in my Bios), and I changed DRAM to the 833 MHz. Also tried 1000 MHz. They both load fine. Didn't do testing on them. (I'm back at the 833 MHz. Still at 250 FSB and 3.2 GHz...I'd like to know what's next?
The memory is the least of my concerns now cause what holding you back is that damn ASUS way of changing CPU corev

Lets get something straight first

You can't push higher if you don't apply more V to your CPU...in most motherboards...the option to do so is called CPU corev and it starts from 0.92v to something crazy like 2.5v

The problem is...in your motherboard...the only way to change the CPU v is through an option called:

CPU Over voltage

The default of it is AUTO...and...you have 3 more options...

1- +50mv
2- +100mv
3- +150mv
right?

Now..i don't know what the hell this means in term of actual voltage..but lucky for us i think we can understand them by doing the following

1- set your FSB back to 200
2- your ram should return to 800Mhz and set your Memory Voltage back to 2.0v
3- Go to bios -> CPU over voltage, and set it to +50vm
4- go to windows and open CPU-Z and tell me what is the CPU voltage windows reading is in it
5- Go to bios -> CPU over voltage, and set it to +100vm
6- go to windows and open CPU-Z and tell me what is the CPU voltage window reading is in it
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Your Ram is PC2-6400, so 800Mhz @ 2.0v is your default try to stay close to 800Mhz but if you get 850-900Mhz bump the voltage to 2.1 or 2.2v



those are for the 3.3+ and 5+ rails...you can't modify them but if you can...DON'T



The memory is the least of my concerns now cause what holding you back is that damn ASUS way of changing CPU corev

Lets get something straight first

You can't push higher if you don't apply more V to your CPU...in most motherboards...the option to do so is called CPU corev and it starts from 0.92v to something crazy like 2.5v

The problem is...in your motherboard...the only way to change the CPU v is through an option called:

CPU Over voltage

The default of it is AUTO...and...you have 3 more options...

1- +50mv
2- +100mv
3- +150mv
right?

Now..i don't know what the hell this means in term of actual voltage..but lucky for us i think we can understand them by doing the following

1- set your FSB back to 200
2- your ram should return to 800Mhz and set your Memory Voltage back to 2.0v
3- Go to bios -> CPU over voltage, and set it to +50vm
4- go to windows and open CPU-Z and tell me what is the CPU voltage windows reading is in it
5- Go to bios -> CPU over voltage, and set it to +100vm
6- go to windows and open CPU-Z and tell me what is the CPU voltage window reading is in it
Thanks. I'll give it a try tonight.

I had read (before buying this mobo) that it wasn't great for overclocking. But, I got a great deal, and didn't think I'd be doing overclocking. (Until I learned the CPU was great for it.)
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Thanks. I'll give it a try tonight.

I had read (before buying this mobo) that it wasn't great for overclocking. But, I got a great deal, and didn't think I'd be doing overclocking. (Until I learned the CPU was great for it.)


also...

1- don't use the 150vm until we know what the hell the lower values do..sorry it just came to me now
2- leave..NOTHING..on AUTO even the mem speed and voltage
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I followed the steps at lunch. Here's what CPU-Z showed:

CPU over voltage at [Auto]:
1.264
1.252
1.256
1.144
----
+50mv:
1.184
1.144
1.136
1.320
1.160
----
+100mv:
1.192
1.208
1.200
1.368
1.216

Those were the fluctuations I noticed in CPU-Z with each setting. My memory was at 800 MHz and 2.0V. I forgot to change the NB voltage, so it was at Auto throughout the changes.
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I followed the steps at lunch. Here's what CPU-Z showed:

CPU over voltage at [Auto]:
1.264
1.252
1.256
1.144
----
+50mv:
1.184
1.144
1.136
1.320
1.160
----
+100mv:
1.192
1.208
1.200
1.368
1.216

Those were the fluctuations I noticed in CPU-Z with each setting. My memory was at 800 MHz and 2.0V. I forgot to change the NB voltage, so it was at Auto throughout the changes.
This is just stupid....the man who came up with the idea of mvs needs to be fired

so it just give you a higher set of Autos

ok....as i expected...if you go 150mv this will unlock 1.4+v range which we don't want....

so...set the mv to +50 first and get that CPU to 270x13 = 3510MHz then test its stability with prime95 for 15min..if it holds..then thats good and it means you should leave prime95 running 7-8 hours to call this CPU 100% stable...

if however..its not stable @ +50mv...try +100mv and do the same with prime95

if neither work..to get to 3.5Ghz ..then:

1- I must review the bios options again to check if i missed something (wishful thinking really)
or
2- Get a decent MB like the one i Have for 55 USD and throw that P.O.S ASUS in the garbage

as for your memory...just stay as close (or even lower than) 800Mhz as possible but..if you go over....say 830-825Mhz bump the voltage to 2.1v

also...set the NB back to manual

good luck
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This is just stupid....the man who came up with the idea of mvs needs to be fired

so it just give you a higher set of Autos

ok....as i expected...if you go 150mv this will unlock 1.4+v range which we don't want....

so...set the mv to +50 first and get that CPU to 270x13 = 3510MHz then test its stability with prime95 for 15min..if it holds..then thats good and it means you should leave prime95 running 7-8 hours to call this CPU 100% stable...

if however..its not stable @ +50mv...try +100mv and do the same with prime95

if neither work..to get to 3.5Ghz ..then:

1- I must review the bios options again to check if i missed something (wishful thinking really)
or
2- Get a decent MB like the one i Have for 55 USD and throw that P.O.S ASUS in the garbage

as for your memory...just stay as close (or even lower than) 800Mhz as possible but..if you go over....say 830-825Mhz bump the voltage to 2.1v

also...set the NB back to manual

good luck
Okay. Here's the rundown:

mv at +50
FSB @ 270
Memory at 900 MHz (closest option to 800...and @ 2.3V)
NB is manual @ 1.215 (or something...only a couple increments to choose.)

Prime95 ran without errors for 20 minutes or so. However, I'm worried about temps. Looks like they were hovering in the mid 60's...topping out at 67 degrees. :l

Where to go from here? Should I shoot for 3.2 or something (to hopefully get the temps down)? I'd also like to get that RAM back down too.

Thanks again for all the help...appreciate it!


Edited by digdoug - 2/9/10 at 10:05pm
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Okay. Here's the rundown:

mv at +50
FSB @ 270
Memory at 900 MHz (closest option to 800...and @ 2.3V)
NB is manual @ 1.215 (or something...only a couple increments to choose.)

Prime95 ran without errors for 20 minutes or so. However, I'm worried about temps. Looks like they were hovering in the mid 60's...topping out at 67 degrees. :l

Where to go from here? Should I shoot for 3.2 or something (to hopefully get the temps down)? I'd also like to get that RAM back down too.

Thanks again for all the help...appreciate it!

Good results

now..something you should know about the E5300

Max thermal spec (the maximum recommended CPU temp is 74.1C)

your 67C is not the CPU temp...its the core temp..BIG DIFFERENCE

CPU temp = Core temp - 10C

So your CPU reached a max temp of 57C

67C max core temp is a great result for close to 1Ghz OC

Now, before you test your stability...i want the CPU-Z core v reading when Prime95 is running

Oh and 900Mhz RAM speed is nothing to worry about...i can OC my P.O.S ram to 900 100% stable by just bumping the DRAM v from 1.8v(default) to 1.9v..so the RAM is ok for now...
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