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I?ll apologize now for the long post, but I figured it?s better to be as specific as possible. I need to replace my current aging system (Lian Li PC60II+, AMD Athlon 64X2 @ 3.2Ghz, 500GB (Seagate 7200.11 ) & 1TB (Samsung F3) HDDs, Abit NF-M2 board, 4x1GB PC6400, XFX 7900GS, OCZ GameXStream 700w) soon. I want to build a high performance system (at least for my budget ? around $2k w/o monitor) primary for video encoding/playback along with some potential gaming later. I?ve got at least 50 hours of video to VHQ encode/transfer files from my DVR as well as VHQ encode DVDs to MKV for playback on my WDTV Live media player.

Preliminary Build:
--Case: Cooler Master 840, Corsair 800D or Silverstone FT02 (see below)
--Motherboard: Intel 1366 socket ?probably either Asus or Gigabyte (trying to decide on USB 3.0 board or not).
--CPU: Intel i920 or i930 OC'd to 4GHz (will upgrade to Gulftown i9 6-core)
--CPU cooling: Probably air cooling - either Noctua NH-D14 (1st choice) or Prolimatech Megahalems Rev B. Thinking about water cooling (3x120mm radiator type), but depends on case & budget.
--DDR3: Have no idea right now, but really shouldn?t be that hard to figure out. Probably start with 6GB and later go to 12GB unless there's a really good deal now on 12GB.
--Graphics Card: *sigh* Not sure what to do here. A lot of it depends upon whether Nvidia offers more (or any) ability to encode video vs. ATI. Since Fermi is supposedly only 2 months away, I?ll probably wait for that and see how it performs (as well as the price *cringes*) rather than drop $400 now on a Radeon 5870 Vapor X...if I can find one. Quite possible I go to a SLI/Crossfire in the future.
--PSU: Probably Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850w. From what I?ve read, this seems to be an outstanding PSU at a very reasonable price, and should be fine for dual single GPU SLI/Crossfire or one dual GPU card.
--HDDs: Samsung F3 single platter 500GB or WD Caviar Black (if they ever release one ) for Windows/programs, and two 1.5TB or 2TB 500GB platter drives (WD Caviar Black or Samsung F3 depending upon release (1.5TB), availability & price) ? one for data storage and one for data back up. I?ll get a SSD for OS/programs eventually.
--OS: Window 7 64 bit ultra/premium/whatever.

I'm having a lot of trouble deciding on a case (and motherboard but that's a separate issue), and I really could use some advice. Suggestions on the other parts are appreciated as well.

Ideally, the case will be a traditional full (or almost full) ATX case with excellent air cooling (without being very noisy) and water cooling potential. Hot swappable HDDs is a requirement (whether add on part or standard). It should be somewhat ?future proof? in that it will handle today?s and tomorrow?s large graphics cards. At the rate things are going 12" cards might be standard a couple of years from now. >_<

?FT02 - I was planning on getting the F2. I love the way it looks and the rotated motherboard design seems to offer outstanding overall air cooling - especially graphics cards. However, it barely fits a Radeon 5970 only after removing the grill (which adds noise ? see Silent PC review), and I?ve read the HDD cage location could prevent using two dual slot graphics cards in SLI/Crossfire. One CES report said that the Fermi demo looked to be 10.5", but who knows what the actual production card size will be? Furthermore, WC potential is limited. A 3x120m radiator set up placed at the bottom would leave even less space for graphic cards. A 10.5" card might not fit (just a guess). Given that, you're pretty much limited to a Corsair H50. I'm not sure that would be any better than a top air cooling heatsink.
?Corsair 800D - High build quality, excellent cable management, few design flaws, but not very good at air cooling, especially graphics cards, from the reviews I?ve read. I?d add 120mm fans at the top and maybe another inside, but that doesn?t help much with getting outside air to the graphics cards. Plus it would be pretty noisy not to mention pricey with all the extra 120mm fans (Noctua or Scythe)
?Cooler Master 840 ? Cheapest of the three (can put the savings into extra fans LOL), and huge with decent stock air cooling. My guess is that adding a couple of 120mm behind the HDD cage would make a big improvement in airflow. No problems with WC either. Downside - it's huge (I don't have unlimited space), the build quality isn?t as good as the other two (per reviews), and not sure if hot swappable HDD available.

At this point, I?m slightly leaning towards the Cooler Master 840 simply because it has no potential space issues like the FT02, and from what I can tell, has a better air cooling than the Corsair. Plus it?s cheaper than either one. Still, I?d rather pay more now to get one of the other two if they would be better overall.

So which case should I get? Again sorry for the long post & thanks for the help.


Edited by goesto11 - 6/10/13 at 3:09pm
My System
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2700k @ 4.5Ghz (HT on) MSI Z77A-GD65 EVGA GTX 580 Classified 3GB @ 920Mhz G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR3 @ 2133Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial M4 SSD 256GB (OS) WD Caviar Black 2TB (Data) 2x Samsung F4EG 2TB (Data) Thermalright Archon 2x140mm 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Dell U3011 Logitech G710+ mechanical keyboard Corsair HX850 
CaseAudio
Silverstone Fortress FT02 Asus Xonar Essence STX 
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My System
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2700k @ 4.5Ghz (HT on) MSI Z77A-GD65 EVGA GTX 580 Classified 3GB @ 920Mhz G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR3 @ 2133Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial M4 SSD 256GB (OS) WD Caviar Black 2TB (Data) 2x Samsung F4EG 2TB (Data) Thermalright Archon 2x140mm 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Dell U3011 Logitech G710+ mechanical keyboard Corsair HX850 
CaseAudio
Silverstone Fortress FT02 Asus Xonar Essence STX 
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post #2 of 4
I say you take a look at a HAF 932..... 9 total fans could be installed..... the GPU aircooling has to be the best..
post #3 of 4
The 840 is a pretty good case. The stock fans move a decent amount of air, nice exterior.

I'd suggest looking into the ATCS owners thread if you're curious about any problems.
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Thanks for the fast replies.

RE: the HAF932, I know it's an one of the most recommended cases and an air cool champ (pretty much a wind tunnel with all the fans), but I don't like having fans on the side panel and I'm sure it's louder than any of the three I'm considering. Plus, there's so much mesh that I'll have a ton of dust when collect when it's off (my place is a dust farm for some reason).

I think the FT02 is a match for it in cooling, but there's there are the potential issues I mentioned above. Assuming those issues are true with the FT02, if I can get either the Corsair 800D or CM 840 to provide GPU air cooling fairly close to the HAF932 (or FT02) without having to add a ton of extra high speed fans, that would be good enough for me.

I guess I can post a question on the CM 840 thread though I might as well post one in the 800D thread as well. I thought it would be better to post new thread rather than do that, but I'm new here so maybe I'm wrong. I'll post some specific questions there if I don't get a lot of replies to my post. I wish there were more reviews on the SilverStone FT02. That might clear up the questions I have about that case.

I thought about the Lian Li A70F/B70 as well. They have received good reviews, but it seems the three I listed are the top full ATX cases right now.

I won't get a bad case choosing any one of them, but if I'm going to spend $200, $250 or more, I want to get the best fit for me and have a case I can enjoy for years. It sucks to spend money like that and then regret chosing it over another one.
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Edited by goesto11 - 6/10/13 at 3:02pm
My System
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2700k @ 4.5Ghz (HT on) MSI Z77A-GD65 EVGA GTX 580 Classified 3GB @ 920Mhz G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR3 @ 2133Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial M4 SSD 256GB (OS) WD Caviar Black 2TB (Data) 2x Samsung F4EG 2TB (Data) Thermalright Archon 2x140mm 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Dell U3011 Logitech G710+ mechanical keyboard Corsair HX850 
CaseAudio
Silverstone Fortress FT02 Asus Xonar Essence STX 
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My System
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 2700k @ 4.5Ghz (HT on) MSI Z77A-GD65 EVGA GTX 580 Classified 3GB @ 920Mhz G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB DDR3 @ 2133Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Crucial M4 SSD 256GB (OS) WD Caviar Black 2TB (Data) 2x Samsung F4EG 2TB (Data) Thermalright Archon 2x140mm 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit Dell U3011 Logitech G710+ mechanical keyboard Corsair HX850 
CaseAudio
Silverstone Fortress FT02 Asus Xonar Essence STX 
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