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No sense paying $45/50 for the same game that will be $20 in a matter of months. I bought Bioshock when it was $20 (then steam put it on sale for $5) but $20 was a great deal.

Especially with DRM I don't feel like paying that much.
This doesn't make any sense. Just because will go down in price eventually means to not buy it and play it if you're a fan of the series?

That makes no sense at all. If someone wants to buy the game, they have every right to. We got a four pack going on, and we all paid $33 for a copy. I'd say that's pretty cheap. Even if someone buys it for $50, if they have the money and are a fan, why is that a problem?

Almost all games go down in price. Not all of them do though, and not everyone is willing to wait for the price to come down more when they feel they will enjoy the game.

Sorry, but I don't see the DRM being a big enough reason to not buy the game. I don't intend on having to reinstall the game over and over and over again.
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Edited by Paradox me - 1/21/10 at 4:22am
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spoiler alerts bud

not buying this. not until they remove the install limit. its completely unnecessary, being on Steam and all, and also, they ought to have learnt with the first one.

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Edited by -iceblade^ - 2/6/10 at 3:26am
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spoiler alerts bud
Really? I only touched on the key things from the trailers so far, but I'll take it down in case, if you wanna take it out of the quote in your post.

And thanks. Wish I had luck unlocking to an X4 like you though. D:
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I don't know if I'm gona buy it..

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010...ioshock-2-drm/
And I quote Rock Paper Shotgun (PC Gaming Blog):
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Okay. Let’s keep this just the facts, as everyone knows what they mean. The tech specs for Bioshock 2 are out. They’re reasonable enough. There’s also some fun DRM. Online verification via SecuRom, with an install limit (15 machines, admittedly). To save the game or play online, you need to be logged into Games for Window Live. This still applies on Steam – so SecuRom and Games For Windows Live are needed in addition to the Steam client. Hmm.
Lets see:

1. Online Verification
This means you can't install the game on a PC without internet. Okay, well, most people have the internet, so, not THAT bad.

2. via SecuROM
This is already a dealbreaker for some people, SecuROM is some of the most invasive anti-piracy software around, even going so far as to install rootkits when you install some games.

3. 15 Install Limit
This means that if for some weird reason you end up installing the game 15 times, that's it, no more. Your CD key is now invalid. Assuming bioshock becomes some sort of amazing world-renowned game and is played for many years to come, that means you can't play it after upgrading to Windows 22!

Okay, so that's a little silly, but install limits are a big no-no, even with such a high ceiling.
edit:
update: it's 5 installs. Great!

4. To save the game or play online, you need to be logged into Games for Window Live.

Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa. People who enjoy achievements are free to use GFWL in their games but it is considered an enormous pain and more annoying than helpful by most gamers. In addition to not being able to play multiplayer without it, YOU CAN'T EVEN SAVE WITHOUT BEING LOGGED IN? What on earth are they thinking?

5. This still applies on Steam – so SecuRom and Games For Windows Live are needed in addition to the Steam client.

Yes, that's right, even with steam, all of this still applies. Even the install limit.

In closing, Bioshock 2 will be so bloated with DRM, even moreso than SPORE, that it will be unplayable without at least one kind forced down your throat, more than likely two or three. Oh well, there's always System Shock.

Official post by a 2k games community manager:
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Hey guys,

As many of you are aware, yesterday Steam's pre-purchase program began and the specs for BioShock 2 were posted along with that announcement.

These specs were taken from the retail packaging of BioShock 2. And since bullet points on the back of the box don't always explain the full story, here is a little more detail about what that means.

BioShock 2 is using a standard Games for Windows Live activation system, much like other games you have played in the past. That doesn't mean you always have to be online to play or save the game - you can create an offline profile for the Single Player portion of the game (you just won't earn achievements and you can't play Multiplayer, of course.)

We are using SecuROM only as a disc check method for the retail copy of BioShock 2. That is it's only use.

I am now checking the final plans for BioShock 2's specifications for Steam - and I'll get you a more complete answer by the end of the week. I have also been compiling a feature that will help answer a host of questions about BioShock 2 on the PC, including a podcast and screenshots of the PC version, and that should be out within a few days as well.

I'm sorry for the confusion, and I hope to clear it up entirely for you soon.

-Elizabeth

I'll probably still buy it, but I won't be happy
Edited by FSF-Foxhound - 1/21/10 at 9:45am
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Actually it's a 5 machine activation limit. So I will skip this one till it is very much cheaper.
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Actually it's a 5 machine activation limit. So I will skip this one till it is very much cheaper.
That was taken from the above quote, but I'll edit it.
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If only I could grow a sack and beat the first one
I got so bored half way through I just dropped it all together. I think some massive stimulants are needed to get through the suck fest.

Talk about the easiest game every made.
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There's a pretty amazing cinematic trailer:


Wish this could actually be gameplay footage.
Edited by Infrabasse - 2/3/10 at 4:23pm
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I am buying it in the 4 pack with a couple of other OCN members... I cant wait to play it... i even reinstalled the original and played it a bit to get worked up about the sequel...
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