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Does this support the SSDNOW V Series for the 30GB? I try it but I'm getting the "your SSD has pre-production firmware" and it's running on AJXA0202 firmware.
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The 30GB drive already has TRIM apparently with a Toshiba Controller. If this is indeed the drive I am reading about then the Intel Firmware will not work on the 30GB SSD as it has a Toshiba controller and not Intel.

This is what I read about your SSD :

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The Toshiba T6UG1XBG controller on this drive is the same controller used in the latest Kingston SSDNow V+ Series drives. It supports TRIM but not NCQ, although as I found in my testing of the V+ drives the TRIM functionality is a bit odd.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2968/i...the-125-ssds/3
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The 30GB drive already has TRIM apparently with a Toshiba Controller. If this is indeed the drive I am reading about then the Intel Firmware will not work on the 30GB SSD as it has a Toshiba controller and not Intel.

This is what I read about your SSD :



http://www.anandtech.com/show/2968/i...the-125-ssds/3
Wow, that's interesting. I'm not sure why my Windows 7 isn't detecting trim because some of the settings are not turn off. Is there a program(s) that I could use to detect if Trim is either supported or enabled?

Thanks.
Edited by LEXX911 - 6/28/10 at 7:58am
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Wow, that's interesting. I'm not sure why my Windows 7 isn't detecting trim because some of the settings are not turn off. Is there a program(s) that I could use to detect if Trim is either supported or enabled?

Thanks.
I think I mentioned it in my OP but a program called ''CrystalDiskInfo'' will tell you the various capabilities of your SSD/HDD'S
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I think I mentioned it in my OP but a program called ''CrystalDiskInfo'' will tell you the various capabilities of your SSD/HDD'S
Thanks! Seem to be using Trim. I'm not sure why it didn't disable defragmentation and some other that it said Windows 7 suppose to.

Now I've manually go in and disabled some of the services and my Windows 7 seems to take longer to shutdown and boot up. Hmmm...

Another thing is that my bios is set to IDE not AHCI when I install Windows. Is that wrong?
Edited by LEXX911 - 6/28/10 at 8:56am
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Thanks! Seem to be using Trim. I'm not sure why it didn't disable defragmentation and some other that it said Windows 7 suppose to.

Now I've manually go in and disabled some of the services and my Windows 7 seems to take longer to shutdown and boot up. Hmmm...

Another thing is that my bios is set to IDE not AHCI when I install Windows. Is that wrong?
I guessed AHCI doesn't matter since it doesn't support NCQ.

Thanks...
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I guessed AHCI doesn't matter since it doesn't support NCQ.

Thanks...
Yeah its normal for it to be set to IDE. Windows 7 does not disable defrag services when TRIM is enabled...It did not for me but I also have mechanical HDD's
post #208 of 285
RE: Automatic Defrag
Windows never "disables" the defragmentation service, if it detects an SSD it doesn't SCHEDULE defragmentation for the SSD.

You can see if it's "detected" the SSD by trying to schedule defragmentation for it... you can still run ad-hoc defrags on it (although I don't recommend it) but you shouldn't be able to SCHEDULE it.

RE: TRIM
Having working TRIM requires that all these conditions are met:
1. Windows sending TRIM commands (Win 7 does this by default unless you disable it)
2. Driver that passes the TRIM command (Windows default drivers, or Intel's new RST driver)
3. Drive that accepts TRIM commands (that is not a member of a RAID array)

Since you don't have your system details filled in I can't tell what chipset your mobo is on and guess what driver you'd be using...
Edited by TheDreadedGMan - 6/30/10 at 5:02am
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Hi, so recently my kingston SSD has gotten near full up and I've noticed a dramatic increase in read and write times. So much, that I want to enable trim.

Just a quick question before I get started, is it recommended to wipe the drive clean before enabling trim (a certain app to do this)? or will it work fine just activating trim on the drive as it is now?
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Hi, so recently my kingston SSD has gotten near full up and I've noticed a dramatic increase in read and write times. So much, that I want to enable trim.

Just a quick question before I get started, is it recommended to wipe the drive clean before enabling trim (a certain app to do this)? or will it work fine just activating trim on the drive as it is now?
No need to wipe the drive. You can enable TRIM at any point. The Firmware controls the TRIM support on the drive and you can modify the firmware without damaging any data on the drive and there is no need to wipe anything.
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