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Hey guys,

Fantastic work on this firmware.

Any ideas on if it could work for other Kingston V series drives? I've got a 64GB drive otw, and i'm fairly confident it wont support TRIM.

I'm not 100% on the internals ie: if they're still all intel components, but i can look into that if need be.
I have to say this is unlikely. The Internals will be different and there is a size difference also. I doubt this firmware would work on that drive. It may or may not be possible however to use a different firmware in the future. I will take a look into the 64GB variant tomorrow.
post #42 of 285
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Hey guys,

Fantastic work on this firmware.

Any ideas on if it could work for other Kingston V series drives? I've got a 64GB drive otw, and i'm fairly confident it wont support TRIM.

I'm not 100% on the internals ie: if they're still all intel components, but i can look into that if need be.

Those other V-Series drives use a Jmicron JMF602... no way will an Intel firmware work on it.
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Yeah I thought the controller on the 64GB was Jmicron.
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The 40GB is an Intel Gen 2 controller while your SSD is using the Samsung S3C29RBB01 based controller.

Edit: BTW, thank you very much Enterprise for building the OP.
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post #45 of 285
Thanks for the update and guide!

I've tried burning the image posted under 3rd method and making my own (replacing the issdfut.exe) and both are telling me that I am using a pre production firmware and won't let me update the firmware. I tried the original intel iso and it doesn't detect any ssds (just to make sure). Unfortunately I don't have another PC to try this on and my mobo is pretty old (nforce 4) and I'm afraid its a sata controller issue.

-EDIT-

I disconnected my PATA hard drive so that only my kingston was connected, and it detected and updated the firmware! I'll leave this up for any other novices that are trying this. Crystal disk is showing trim enabled- THANKS!!!! F intel and kingston!
Edited by Teetu - 1/30/10 at 12:56am
post #46 of 285
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Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE View Post
Try switching to another controller but also please try using IDE mode for your SATA and give it another shot.



The Intel Optimizer will not work until the Intel firmware flashed on the Kingston is reset back to default using HDAT2 from my understanding.

AHCI is another option you can try. Its not that you must not use AHCI but there are times depending on the SATA controller where only IDE mode will work.

Try IDE mode and go back into HDAT2

Welcome to OCN !

Hi
I've tried all the IDE/AhCI options and combinations in the BIOS (F14 on a Gigabyte 965P-DS3), and also moved to different SATA ports, without success.

When running HDAT2 though it runs it checks and shows the Kingston in green, but then hangs at the yellow "Detect BIOS INT13h devices". Is this due to some frozen security setting ? I tried the fix on the HDAT site (unplug the drive and re-attach once booted into DOS) but it still does not work.

So close and yet so far !

cjph
Edited by cjph - 1/30/10 at 3:15am
post #47 of 285
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The 40GB is an Intel Gen 2 controller while your SSD is using the Samsung S3C29RBB01 based controller.

Edit: BTW, thank you very much Enterprise for building the OP.
Anytime Thanks to Telnet for making it possible.

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Hi
I've tried all the IDE/AhCI options and combinations in the BIOS (F14 on a Gigabyte 965P-DS3), and also moved to different SATA ports, without success.

When running HDAT2 though it runs it checks and shows the Kingston in green, but then hangs at the yellow "Detect BIOS INT13h devices". Is this due to some frozen security setting ? I tried the fix on the HDAT site (unplug the drive and re-attach once booted into DOS) but it still does not work.

So close and yet so far !

cjph
I will look into this issue more in depth. However for now have you tried removing all other drives from your motherboard and just leaving the SSD connected ? Another member has success by doing that. Something else to try while I look into the issue would be to try updating the SSD in another system if at all possible as it may be the SATA controller.

If none of the above works I will be looking into the problem to see if I can suggest anything else.

Thanks.
post #48 of 285
Edited because I'm noob and didn't read the COMPLETE thread before posting.

Thanks for posting this up and thanks to Telnet for doing the leg work.
Edited by Silviastud - 1/30/10 at 3:45am
post #49 of 285
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Anytime Thanks to Telnet for making it possible.



I will look into this issue more in depth. However for now have you tried removing all other drives from your motherboard and just leaving the SSD connected ? Another member has success by doing that. Something else to try while I look into the issue would be to try updating the SSD in another system if at all possible as it may be the SATA controller.

If none of the above works I will be looking into the problem to see if I can suggest anything else.

Thanks.
Ok - thanks for the info. I had tried with only the SSD connected without success, so I checked out the process and thread again, and finally got it to work by combining all the steps I have tried and read ;

I had to disconnect the Western Digital disk drive on my system, and due to the 'frozen security' type issues I was having I left the SSD drive unconnected and booted to DOS. I reconnected it (in case it is relevent I used SATA 5 on my motherboard since SATA 0/1 may cause problems from what I have read), and ran HDAT2. HDAT2 did finally see the drive, but would not let me restore the settings (I did'nt note the warning but it mentioned HPA) until I selected the next menu option (Hidden Areas Test) and temporarily disabled HPA (from memory - I think that is what it is called). Tried the restore in the DCO menu again and it worked !

I then went back to the Intel Toolbox and it now allows me to run/use Optimizer as if it is an Intel drive - a very big thank you to you and Telnet for your help and this guide.

cjph
post #50 of 285
Hi there,

seems this topic has become famous at Kingston's product support. I'm owning a 128GB V+ (SNV225-S2/128GB) since a few weeks and asked the product support if and when they will release a TRIM firmware. Well, I got this as an answere:

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Hi Jan

Thanks for your email,

I am afraid we will not be releasing any update for this drive

However, you might get what you want from the following link

http://www.overclock.net/ssd/656984-...-40gb-ssd.html

(Note that we do not support wha's explain on this link)


Regards
This hint is twice as funny if you consider that my drive is using a samsung controller. On the other hand I'm very disappointed about this kind of product maintanance especially if you consider that Kingston gave other statements about future firmware releases (according to some reviews I found). Instead of maintaining a product, Kingston has now released a "new" V+ series wich is now supporting TRIM. Maybe it's the same hardware so some geeks may be able to extract the firmware....

Sorry for my english^^

Cheers

Jan
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