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Poll Results: Would you have Vdroop on or off?

 
  • 53% (114)
    Vdroop on
  • 46% (98)
    Vdroop off
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post #11 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
That anandtech article is TL;DR.

The truth is: most decent motherboards have a good enough bios team and PWM to be able to bypass Intel's intended vdroop.

I really, really, really, really, really, really doubt it will ever cause any harm to the CPU or board. I think the majority of OCers disable vdroop, except for TwoCables that is. And you get to save a few bucks on your power bill because of the lower idle voltage
"Except for TwoCables that is"? Dude, wth? Seriously, what is your deal? "daarrhhh......I'm gonna try and see if I can piss of TwoCables". Yeah, ok man. You need to quit. I've just about had enough of your crap. What do you have to gain by acting like this towards me? Just relax man... this isn't a competition. Life is too short for this crap.

Anyway, as much as you would refuse to believe it, I am by far not the only one who refuses to mess with vDroop. But if I had a 65nm CPU, then I wouldn't be as worried and then I probably wouldn't have gotten rid of my pencil vdroop mod.

But again: please just relax and stop being so competitive or whatever. It's not worth it. There's nothing you gain by doing it, so why not just treat everyone with respect? I just don't get it! What do you have to gain by treating somebody poorly?
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"Except for TwoCables that is"? Dude, wth? Seriously, what is your deal? "daarrhhh......I'm gonna try and see if I can piss of TwoCables". Yeah, ok man. You need to quit. I've just about had enough of your crap. What do you have to gain by acting like this towards me? Just relax man... this isn't a competition. Life is too short for this crap.

Anyway, as much as you would refuse to believe it, I am by far not the only one who refuses to mess with vDroop. But if I had a 65nm CPU, then I wouldn't be as worried and then I probably wouldn't have gotten rid of my pencil vdroop mod.

But again: please just relax and stop being so competitive or whatever. It's not worth it. There's nothing you gain by doing it, so why not just treat everyone with respect? I just don't get it! What do you have to gain by treating somebody poorly?
I'm not ragging on you man, nor competing, nor saying anything. Any time I see vdroop mentioned you swoop out of nowhere posting your anandtech article, hence me mentioning your name.

Calm down.

It just seemed like the majority of people run vdroop disabled. I'm relatively new to Intel so I don't know the user base like I do for AMD.
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post #13 of 84
I run it enabled.
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post #14 of 84
I run w/ LLC on it allows me to run my Q9550 @ 3.4 @ 1.232v a hair under VID (VID 1.2375) w/out it I get lockups and vdroop down to 1.21 I've run w/ it at diff freqs and voltages and lots of OCCT testing and didn't notice any spikes from it at least on my board it gave me rock solid stable voltage..... as far as I could test or tell
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post #15 of 84
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
I'm not ragging on you man, nor competing, nor saying anything. Any time I see vdroop mentioned you swoop out of nowhere posting your anandtech article, hence me mentioning your name.

Calm down.

It just seemed like the majority of people run vdroop disabled. I'm relatively new to Intel so I don't know the user base like I do for AMD.
Nice choice of phrases:
  1. You swoop out of nowhere
  2. Your Anandtech article
  3. Calm down.
This is your usual attitude towards me, and so that's why I reacted the way I did, and that's why I am reacting this way right now. Quite frankly and honestly, I am tired of your hate. I'm not saying that you hate me in particular. I'm just saying that I'm tired of your hate.

And by the way: you most certainly are "ragging" on me. You said that I "swoop" out of nowhere, as though I'm some kind of evil predator or some crap. You're trying to cut me down. You're judging me.

Then you said "your anandtech article". What the hell? You know it's not mine, so why did you choose this phrase? I know why: it's because you have a problem with me and you are unwilling to face it. Instead, you make these statements out of hatred. If you have a problem with me, then come right out with it.

And as for "calm down": telling somebody to "calm down" never works. Ever. Especially when it was said after the other crap you said that I pointed out. You ragged on me and then said "calm down" as though I'm going to say "oh gosh; y'know what? You're right."

Admit it: you have a problem with me. It's already obvious to me. Actually, from what I've seen, it looks like you have a problem with many people on here; as though you hate the general public or something. Hate is a waste of energy and time.
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post #16 of 84
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@ twocables and dopamin
as much as i like a debate on a subject
i dont like people flaming on each other
please solve the problems like men or ill have no choice but to flag this thread
since it looks bad on me for bringing up the topic

anyways
moving on
interesting results so far
from what ive seen lots of people on Core 2 have LLC on
any Core i7 people out there
and im starting to think that possibly the mobo may have a factor on LLC more than what i thought. i only have Asus boards which dont seem to like LLC to much so i personally dont run it. i get crashes Kris Boughton states ironically
from my own experience.

and from the article there are also graphs showing that LLC actually increases power consumption. but keep in mind load voltages are different. 1.28 LLC off and 1.33 LLC on both had the same BIOS vcore VID soo
any other thoughts?

heres the graph
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You run llc to maintain a lower idle voltage, like Dopamin3 said. Anandtech did not use it correctly, and this misinformation has been spreading ever since. As long as you understand that llc has to be run a few volts lower than intel's max spec (such as 1.4v for 1.45v max spikes), then the cpu will not be harmed, and from my experience llc does not cause instability.
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post #18 of 84
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Originally Posted by cky2k6 View Post
You run llc to maintain a lower idle voltage, like Dopamin3 said. Anandtech did not use it correctly, and this misinformation has been spreading ever since. As long as you understand that llc has to be run a few volts lower than intel's max spec (such as 1.4v for 1.45v max spikes), then the cpu will not be harmed, and from my experience llc does not cause instability.
k interesting point.
i dont know about you but it was not the stressing that i had problems w/ it was the fact that when my pc was just idling it would have a BSOD even after it passed 12 hours of prime.
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k interesting point.
i dont know about you but it was not the stressing that i had problems w/ it was the fact that when my pc was just idling it would have a BSOD even after it passed 12 hours of prime.
Its possible that the vrm on your board has negative spikes that put it outside of your chips' operating range, which is unwanted of course, but its a case by case basis. If it doesn't work, thats unfortunate, and its not a terrible thing to run an idle voltage higher than the load needed. I suppose my board keeps the voltage steadier, or its also possible that my cpu doesn't mind the negative spikes as much.
Edited by cky2k6 - 1/28/10 at 5:27pm
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I run LLC enabled, it seems to have help stabilize my OC and allow me to push it a little further. I7 920@ 4.23Ghz, stable with LLC enabled, at 4.16Ghz and LLC disabled I would get crashes. I enabled LLC and I was able to up the BCLK to 212 (for 208) with no changes to voltages, and it stopped crashing.
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