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Poll Results: Would you have Vdroop on or off?

 
  • 53% (114)
    Vdroop on
  • 46% (98)
    Vdroop off
212 Total Votes  
post #21 of 84
I prefer vdroop on and honestly it does not bother me. Never had difficulties OC'ing with it. I actually appreciate it's function. I personally think it comes down to understanding the vdroop range (depending on the mobo being used)
post #22 of 84
I'm honestly not trying to start anything. I'm pm'ing him.

How much do most boards vdroop? Is it a small value like .01v? My DFI boards vdroops a lot, I can't remember the exact number.
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post #23 of 84
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
I'm honestly not trying to start anything. I'm pm'ing him.

How much do most boards vdroop? Is it a small value like .01v? My DFI boards vdroops a lot, I can't remember the exact number.
With this 790i Ultra, the higher I set the vcore, the more vdroop occurs. Currently, I have my vcore in the bios set @ 1.43v and CPU-Z shows 1.4v. If I set the vcore to 1.5v, CPU-Z will show 1.45v. Also in the bios, there is another column that shows the actual vcore being .01v higher than CPU-Z.
Edited by drBlahMan - 1/28/10 at 7:04pm
post #24 of 84
I think it's fine as long as you stay at or below Intel spec of 1.45.
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post #25 of 84
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Originally Posted by Dopamin3 View Post
How much do most boards vdroop? Is it a small value like .01v? My DFI boards vdroops a lot, I can't remember the exact number.
i get about on average a .048 drop not including vdrop from the bios. my vdrop is pretty high at like .018 resulting in an overall drop of .066. for example if i pick a VID vcore of 1.25 it idles at 1.232 then vdroop brings it down to 1.84 soo

depends on boards though. my QX6700 gets a huge vdrop + vdroop. if i set it at 1.45 in bios then it drops to 1.40 then load is at 1.30. its ridiculous how much it has.
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post #27 of 84
I have LLC enabled...keeps my OC stable. I really don't care if I burn anything out. It's life. Same with cars too except it costs more when you blow a motor. Let's face it.... some of us like to live on the edge...push our equipment to the absolute limits. I was pushing 4.2ghz on air with 1.40v pumping through there. As soon as my WC parts come in it's going even higher.

It's all about the speed. Pure Raw Nasty Speed.
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post #28 of 84
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
I intended to vote for Vdroop On, but I used my keyboard and my vote didn't go as planned. So, my vote was supposed to be Vdroop On.

Anyway, this is one of those questions that I think will never be answered unless we can get somebody to spend a few years with a few different systems that get placed into 2 categories: 1 that runs with LLC disabled, and the other with LLC enabled. Then the person would have to subject all of the systems in both groups to the exact same conditions every single day. Not only that, but all of the systems would have to basically be the most common systems (from the motherboard to the CPU to the power supply, etc.).

Then what needs to happen is the person would need to say "ok, after 5 years, here are the results".

So for now, this is what we have:

A 2-page section of a 13-page article that explains why vDroop should be left alone:
  1. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3184&p=5
  2. http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3184&p=6

Given the fact that running with vdroop is Intel spec... isn't Intel's seal of approval enough? Wouldn't you think that they've done the testing you've mentioned and much, much more?

Personally, I'm not interested in using LLC. I'll stick to what Intel recommends. If the OC cannot remain stable under Intel specs, then I've clocked it too far.

But, as said above, it comes down to personal preference and how far each person is willing to push their hardware.
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post #29 of 84
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Given the fact that running with vdroop is Intel spec... isn't Intel's seal of approval enough? Wouldn't you think that they've done the testing you've mentioned and much, much more?

Personally, I'm not interested in using LLC. I'll stick to what Intel recommends. If the OC cannot remain stable under Intel specs, then I've clocked it too far.

But, as said above, it comes down to personal preference and how far each person is willing to push their hardware.
Intel also set stock voltages and clocks too and you don't see many people obeying them around here !

I'm not sure which yet, i find i have to increase my voltage quite a lot higher to stabilize without LLC enabled which makes the idling voltage quite a lot higher that i would like.
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