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I guess you could record a wav with it on and off and compare them.
It's not for recording, it's for playback.
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Yeah I know. If you turn it on and record a wav on loopback and then do the same with it turned off you can compare the wavs; if the program actually does anything the wavs won't match.
    
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Yeah I know. If you turn it on and record a wav on loopback and then do the same with it turned off you can compare the wavs; if the program actually does anything the wavs won't match.

I use a USB DAC for playback. I don't have a sound card, I don't use on board sound and all of the Windows sound functions are disabled. So no recording.

There are much better ways to set up a computer for music playback that just a music player (Media Player/JRiver/Foobar/WinAmp/etc.). The software and set up I use copies the file to be played from a HDD directly to memory. From there it goes to a USB port. The clock in the DAC calls for it to be sent to the DAC based on the clock rate in the DAC which can be done as it's an asynchronous USB port. There is no "Windows" sound function here (not Wasapi nor ASIO) except a Kernel Streaming driver to connect the memory to the USB port. There's no way to make the "music" go back the other way.

Anyway, I know Fidelizer is doing something because play back of the same file sounds different w/wo it.

What I'm interested in::
Other's results from using Fidelizer.
Other programs/methods for improving digital playback.
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post #1774 of 3150
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Other programs/methods for improving digital playback.

Other than jitter (which this program doesn't seem to affect) you can't affect it. It's digital, there's either correct sound or there isn't.
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Unless I'm being a retard the way you have it set up is irrevelant; take the dac output and feed it back into the onboard's input and record a wav with it on and off and compare, the only thing that will have changed is the program.

I've yet to try the program but I'm pretty dubious, I think it'd be beneficial if your computer couldn't stream video and/or audio in realtime but on an overclocking forum who has one of those? tongue.gif
    
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Unless I'm being a retard the way you have it set up is irrevelant; take the dac output and feed it back into the onboard's input and record a wav with it on and off and compare, the only thing that will have changed is the program.

I've yet to try the program but I'm pretty dubious, I think it'd be beneficial if your computer couldn't stream video and/or audio in realtime but on an overclocking forum who has one of those? tongue.gif

While there is a 3.5 mm input jack for the on board sound, there is no driver installed for on board sound. Nor is there any Windows service or process running that could load/use an on board sound driver.

I don't "Stream audio". That's a completely different animal that I have chosen to avoid in exchange for only being able to play 24/32 bit digital files. I don't use a "music player". I don't have Windows sounds. My computer is just a "transport" for digital signals, much like a CD transport, but for digital files instead of CDs.

Oh well. I was going to listen to some ZZ Top, really loud. But it's time for an Italian beef sandwich (dipped) and those Blackhawks!

GO BLACKHAWKS
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What software are you using?
    
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What software are you using?
Windows Kernel streaming driver and JPlay mini.

And Fidelizer, sometimes!!!!
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Somebody tested Jplay and couldn't mesure any differences between it and Foobar/Jriver using the technique I was suggesting you use to test Fidelizer above. Plenty of people swear by Jplay though, so, is his testing flawed or placebo? It's interesting reading either way.
    
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Somebody tested Jplay and couldn't mesure any differences between it and Foobar/Jriver using the technique I was suggesting you use to test Fidelizer above. Plenty of people swear by Jplay though, so, is his testing flawed or placebo? It's interesting reading either way.

I'm a believer in that the way to get the best sound is to have as little as possible between me and the original performance.

The ability to perceive differences in SD greatly depends on a system's ability to reproduce those differences.
For example, it would be of dubious value to tube roll if you sound source was a $10 MP3 player and your sound system was a set of $1.29 ear buds.

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