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Look great man. Just remember - if it sounds good to you, it IS good.

Thats actually a very decent starter setup. The entry level Yamaha integrated amps are sounding quite fantastic these days and you get a lot of bang for your buck with them. Good speakers too.

Are you going to hook all this up to your computer?

May I suggest investing in a decent USB DAC as well as, if you are serious about music, buying JRiver Media Center, and getting a subscription to Tidal HIFI.

There are a lot of great DACs out there. If you want to just get started and have something that will sound phenomenal with the gear you have might I suggest that you look at the Schiit Modi 2 ($99) or the Schiit Modi 2 Uber ($149) or (my fav in this price range) the Audioquest Dragonfly ($149). Any of those will give you better, cleaner sound than you would get out of a soundcard or integrated audio on a PC.

If you want to step up from there to the $200 bracket, you can get a DAC that will play back DSD natively. What's DSD? Well, music, when it's digital, is a series of samples that last just a split second. In the case of a CD, it's 44,100 samples per second. DSD is 2.8 million samples (Hz) or higher, giving what most people say is the best digital audio experience. Can you tell the difference with the gear you bought? I'd say yes. I can tell on my system and it's not much better than yours.

$200 gets you the IFI DSD nano DAC. Going higher than that, given the rest of the system, is almost silly, unless you plan to use a higher end DAC through the course of various systems as you gradually upgrade over time and fall victim to the clutches of audiophilia.
post #2672 of 3150
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Thats actually a very decent starter setup. The entry level Yamaha integrated amps are sounding quite fantastic these days and you get a lot of bang for your buck with them. Good speakers too.

Are you going to hook all this up to your computer?

May I suggest investing in a decent USB DAC as well as, if you are serious about music, buying JRiver Media Center, and getting a subscription to Tidal HIFI.

There are a lot of great DACs out there. If you want to just get started and have something that will sound phenomenal with the gear you have might I suggest that you look at the Schiit Modi 2 ($99) or the Schiit Modi 2 Uber ($149) or (my fav in this price range) the Audioquest Dragonfly ($149). Any of those will give you better, cleaner sound than you would get out of a soundcard or integrated audio on a PC.

If you want to step up from there to the $200 bracket, you can get a DAC that will play back DSD natively. What's DSD? Well, music, when it's digital, is a series of samples that last just a split second. In the case of a CD, it's 44,100 samples per second. DSD is 2.8 million samples (Hz) or higher, giving what most people say is the best digital audio experience. Can you tell the difference with the gear you bought? I'd say yes. I can tell on my system and it's not much better than yours.

$200 gets you the IFI DSD nano DAC. Going higher than that, given the rest of the system, is almost silly, unless you plan to use a higher end DAC through the course of various systems as you gradually upgrade over time and fall victim to the clutches of audiophilia.

Thanks.

 

It'll all be hooked up to my TV and used for pretty much everything. TV, music, films. The digital input makes it very flexible.

 

Having a quick look at the DAC through the top venting (the amp arrived today) it seems pretty decent. I'll try my Modi 2 hooked up and do A/B comparisons to see how big the difference is.


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post #2673 of 3150
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Thanks.

It'll all be hooked up to my TV and used for pretty much everything. TV, music, films. The digital input makes it very flexible.

Having a quick look at the DAC through the top venting (the amp arrived today) it seems pretty decent. I'll try my Modi 2 hooked up and do A/B comparisons to see how big the difference is.

Actually, I would strongly urge you to connect your PC to the Yamaha integrated with your Schiit DAC. If you really want to pimp it out add an audioquest Jitterbug or an Uptone Audio Regen between the PC and the DAC then run RCA from the DAC to the receiver. USB is by far the best audio digital signal transfer. The jitter is much lower than with other standards.

Are you going to add a subwoofer?
post #2674 of 3150
Keep in mind that USB cleaners might not actually improve the sound. Go read on SuperBestAudioFriends.
I got a Schiit Wyrd myself, but havent tested wether it actually improves sound yet, cause my HE-6 are sent for replacement.
post #2675 of 3150
Picked up an Classe Omega Preamp MKII last week:



Installed it Saturday and tested out. Really an awesome piece of equipment. Paired up with
my DAC (which also has a preamp function) sounds a lot better then putting the DAC straight
into the filters of my active speakers.

I get more details, better timing and much more dynamics. XLR between the DAC and the
preamp sounds a lot better then using RCA's. Last night I could hardly stop listening thumb.gif
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Does anyone here have a Linn Sondek LP12?
I'm looking for suggestions on a preamp - I'm using a moving coil cartridge
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Ask your question on AufiogoN, but include what cartridge you're using.
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post #2678 of 3150
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Picked up an Classe Omega Preamp MKII last week:



Installed it Saturday and tested out. Really an awesome piece of equipment. Paired up with
my DAC (which also has a preamp function) sounds a lot better then putting the DAC straight
into the filters of my active speakers.

I get more details, better timing and much more dynamics. XLR between the DAC and the
preamp sounds a lot better then using RCA's. Last night I could hardly stop listening thumb.gif

Are you sure that a digital device designed to reproduce things... digitally is changing the "dynamics and timing?"

Any perceived change would more likely be attributable to the change from RCA to Balanced interconnects.
post #2679 of 3150
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Are you sure that a digital device designed to reproduce things... digitally is changing the "dynamics and timing?"

Any perceived change would more likely be attributable to the change from RCA to Balanced interconnects.

Where do people like you come from "Digital is digital". Nonsense. Go do some research.
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Where do people like you come from "Digital is digital". Nonsense. Go do some research.

If the bits that go in are the same at the other end then digital is digital.

I didn't mean to imply anything other than it's more likely the physical change than any DAC unless the previous dac was from the late 80s.

Magic happens sometimes, but that is because there has been an alteration made to the audio, it's why inferior media like tape and vinyl are still around. If a modern DAC does it's job properly there shouldn't be any difference and the produced signal should null with the source when inverted, if it doesn't then it's because they have included audio processing in the chain. No big deal. If you have ever spent any time listening in a studio to real instruments acoustically and as captured you will know that Audiophilia is mostly people conditioned via marketing and a need to have cool things (nothing wrong with that either - to each their own) they kinda forget about the music and just use it to listen to gear.

I understand how it goes though, you live in your world and I will live in mine (To each, their own).
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