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Are you sure that a digital device designed to reproduce things... digitally is changing the "dynamics and timing?"

Any perceived change would more likely be attributable to the change from RCA to Balanced interconnects.

Since the Omega Pre is fully balanced and the preferred method of connecting the dCS Paganini is also balanced it is not that weird it sounds better this way.

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If the bits that go in are the same at the other end then digital is digital.

I didn't mean to imply anything other than it's more likely the physical change than any DAC unless the previous dac was from the late 80s.

Magic happens sometimes, but that is because there has been an alteration made to the audio, it's why inferior media like tape and vinyl are still around. If a modern DAC does it's job properly there shouldn't be any difference and the produced signal should null with the source when inverted, if it doesn't then it's because they have included audio processing in the chain. No big deal. If you have ever spent any time listening in a studio to real instruments acoustically and as captured you will know that Audiophilia is mostly people conditioned via marketing and a need to have cool things (nothing wrong with that either - to each their own) they kinda forget about the music and just use it to listen to gear.

I understand how it goes though, you live in your world and I will live in mine (To each, their own).

I have owned multiple DAC's in different budgets (started with a Cambridge Audio DACmagic, moved to an Antelope Zodiac+ and last year I bought this beautiful dCS Paganini, together with a Chord Hugo for the office) and they do sound different. I wish they all sounded the same, that could have saved me a lot of money biggrin.gif
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I don't deny that they sound different, they all use different stuff on the analog side - you can swap a capacitor in your soundcard and hear that plain as day. Just saying that any difference is most likely an artificial colouring of the sound when modern conversion is pretty much flawless.
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I don't deny that they sound different, they all use different stuff on the analog side - you can swap a capacitor in your soundcard and hear that plain as day. Just saying that any difference is most likely an artificial colouring of the sound when modern conversion is pretty much flawless.

As you can see in my sig, I use two streamers for my audio setup. The output is only digital. Changing something does alter the sound. The digital signal you refer to (zero's and ones) is actually a voltage. Even despite buffering, error correction and so on there can be differences. If it was that easy with just zero's and ones we would not need any error correction and so on... Even replacing a switching psu of digital device with a fully lineair psu has influence on the signal. For the past years I tried a lot of different stuff (I even use "audiophile" SATA cables) and could easily hear the difference. I do not buy stuff because other people have a certain idea of it, why it should or shouldn't work. I try it and if I hear a difference then I buy it, if not I send it back. A good dealer will let you try the equipment he sells in your own set.

Anyway, I feel we never reach consensus on this topic. However, I do respect your opinion so let's get back to show of the audio equipment we bought or got today rolleyes.gif
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Anyway, I feel we never reach consensus on this topic. However, I do respect your opinion so let's get back to show of the audio equipment we bought or got today rolleyes.gif
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Picked up a hifiberry dac to go with my Rasberry Pi, immediate impressions are that there is no change from my Modi playing off the Pi.

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Picked up a hifiberry dac to go with my Rasberry Pi, immediate impressions are that there is no change from my Modi playing off the Pi.

What was the point of buying if there is no differences?
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What was the point of buying if there is no differences?

How would I listen to the hifiberry without buying it? I really need to take some more time switching back and forth before I say they are equivalent. Its a bit of a task to get it switched over so pretty hard to discern anything but major differences, hence my initial impression.

I like the idea of the hifiberry for a simple setup. I love the portability of it and so far it sounds great.
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How would I listen to the hifiberry without buying it? I really need to take some more time switching back and forth before I say they are equivalent. Its a bit of a task to get it switched over so pretty hard to discern anything but major differences, hence my initial impression.

I like the idea of the hifiberry for a simple setup. I love the portability of it and so far it sounds great.

I thought you might have heard it somewhere else...nevermind.
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As I am spending more and more time abroad, and being stuck with my laptop, I decided to pull the trigger on a 'travelling' kit.

1 x Denon AH-D2000 'Lawton edition' - Fully tuned, angled pads, shells been replaced/isolated and been refitted with a 7.5ft SE Jenna Labs Cable.



1 x Aune X1S - 32Bit/384KHz DSD DAC Headphone Amplifier
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Found these Klipsch kg 4 $200 for the pair.

Pairing them with this subwoofer once its back from rma. Klipsch sw-112s

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