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You've got so much colour going on in there I doubt anyone will notice. The blue LEDs tend to 'wash' out the colours anyway.
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Originally Posted by WolfFangs1381 View Post

Here's the thing,I would like to know from all you well experienced cable sleevers here if using the wire from Performance-PCs is safe to use. If not where would you recommend purchasing wire from? The other thing is,is it safe to build custom cables without all the unnecessary connectors for hard drives and dvd-rom drives (I do use the stock psu cables as a guide when building custom cables)? If that's all well and good I'll be able to do the same for lighting too. I would greatly appreciate any input or recommendations given.

I believe so long as you match the gauges any electrical wire will work (at least in the USA.) When I rewired my non-modular PSU I got 16 gauge (for most connections) and 22 gauge (for fans, power/reset switch, and front bezel LEDs) from my local automotive and hardware stores in colors that wouldn't show poorly through my sleeving. I've not used the wire from PPCS, but I'm sure it is just fine.

Yes it is safe to make custom cables with, for example, only 2 molex connectors instead of 4, or 2 sata power connectors instead of 3, or what have you. I've actually got a single molex connector running on my 12v rail right now for my LED driver and another on my 12v rail is running 3 PCI-e mounted external molex connectors.

My only cautions would be A) make sure you pin out your cables correctly; ie grounds, 5v and 12v lines etc., and B) be careful with matching the number of connectors they have per cable on yours; ie if they only do 3 sata power connectors per line, don't make a cable with more than 3 on it. this is not a hard n fast rule, but you'd have to do some testing on how many volts said line was producing vs how much the components you'd be plugging in would use at max, etc. I remember making a MB power and HDD power combined cable way back when - whenever my CD drive started up it would blue screen my system hehehe

Good luck!
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PPCS is safe to use. But it isn't great for sleeving. It is very soft w/ too much insulation and less actually wire. It can't really hold its shape at all.
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post #10344 of 14329
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Originally Posted by kpoeticg View Post

Wow, you're pretty brave.

You're not worried what's gonna happen when a pin gets stuck and you have to kinda ruin it to get it out?

Sometimes it can go pretty smoothly and you might not have anything to worry about. I would definitely consider grabbing a crimper & extra pins to keep handy tho.

Edit: Or if you really can't afford a crimper, needle nose pliers can work in a pinch. I still recommending having pins around when you're sleeving tho.

I've managed to sleeve my gpu cables and 24 pin with this method. Was it a pain in the rear? Yes. Do I recommend this method? Not if you can afford the proper materials. It was just one of them things I had to try for myself. I'll be going the proper route next go 'round. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Mystriss View Post

I believe so long as you match the gauges any electrical wire will work (at least in the USA.) When I rewired my non-modular PSU I got 16 gauge (for most connections) and 22 gauge (for fans, power/reset switch, and front bezel LEDs) from my local automotive and hardware stores in colors that wouldn't show poorly through my sleeving. I've not used the wire from PPCS, but I'm sure it is just fine.

Yes it is safe to make custom cables with, for example, only 2 molex connectors instead of 4, or 2 sata power connectors instead of 3, or what have you. I've actually got a single molex connector running on my 12v rail right now for my LED driver and another on my 12v rail is running 3 PCI-e mounted external molex connectors.

My only cautions would be A) make sure you pin out your cables correctly; ie grounds, 5v and 12v lines etc., and B) be careful with matching the number of connectors they have per cable on yours; ie if they only do 3 sata power connectors per line, don't make a cable with more than 3 on it. this is not a hard n fast rule, but you'd have to do some testing on how many volts said line was producing vs how much the components you'd be plugging in would use at max, etc. I remember making a MB power and HDD power combined cable way back when - whenever my CD drive started up it would blue screen my system hehehe

Good luck!

Yeah I bought all the correct gauge wire but I might need to buy more. lol Used a lot when I did the cables for my 700w. I thought it would be just fine building my own custom cables. Things could go wrong but that's the risk we take modding our custom builds right?

When I changed out my 24-pin main power cable I labelled each wire before I actually sleeved it. I also drew myself a diagram so I'd know where each wire went when I used my 24-pin UV molex connector. It worked out well when putting the pins back into the connector. I don't plan on using anymore than two sata connectors to run my hard drives and two connectors for my dvd-roms. I don't see a reason to use more than two hard drives or two dvd-rom drives. To me all those extra bays these newer cases have are pointless. But I understand what your saying. This is the last thing I have to do before I can set up my new custom gamer. But wanted to ask about it before I started. My only problem is I just don't have a place to put my case yet! lol Thanks for the information,it's appreciated. thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by lowfat View Post

PPCS is safe to use. But it isn't great for sleeving. It is very soft w/ too much insulation and less actually wire. It can't really hold its shape at all.

It seemed pretty okay to me when I did my 700w psu. If I remember correctly most of the wire had the same amount of wire inside the insulation. And there was maybe one that was more insulation than actual wire. As for holding it's shape what I did was sleeve the wires and shrink tube one end,then pulled the sleeving tight,wrapped a twist tie around the other end keeping it tight and then shrink tubed it. It covers the wires inside pretty much completely and by twist tying the one end after doing the other will add a bit of give to the sleeving. I'll post a pic of some of the cables I did for my 700w psu as well as everything hooked up inside the case. Each wire however wasn't sleeved individually so you can see the actual wire near the connectors. Which for myself I didn't mind. I'm still not sure if I like the individually sleeved wires or not. We'll see when I get to actually sleeving my new 1375w psu cables. lol Thanks for the information,it's appreciated. thumb.gif

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Things could go wrong but that's the risk we take modding our custom builds right?

For sure, though I'd recommend not trying to hide the PSU side of the cables "inside" the PSU like I did, the top never did go back on quite right which made the fan rattle tongue.gif



Though it did work just fine for quite a while, until I was messing around with wiring up CCFL's and forgot to unplug it once hahaha That was my last non-modular PSU ever.
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The lowfat© V2 cable clamps. Now stronger and better. tongue.gif


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Hey guys,

Probably a silly question but thought I'd better double check. I'm just making a pin out diagram for my 24 pin cable and the empty socket has me a little confused...



I'm guessing the ---- on pin 20 in the manual is meant to signify there is no pin, however it appears to be socket 19 on my actual cable. The power supply is a Cooler master v1000 if that makes any difference. Am I missing something obvious or is the diagram in the manual wrong?
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hmm that is odd... I'd actually say your connector there isn't compliant, aka some worker messed up. ATX standard puts pins 17-19 as grounds, and the 20pin as -5v, which I believe is optional. I'm fairly certain that Cooler Master complies with the ATX standards...
Edited by Mystriss - 12/29/13 at 12:29pm
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hmm that is odd... I'd actually say your connector there isn't compliant, aka some worker messed up. ATX standard puts pins 17-19 as grounds, and the 20pin as -5v, which I believe is optional. I'm fairly certain that Cooler Master complies with the ATX standards...

Thanks Mystriss,

Hmm, this is a little annoying, is there anyway to get a diagram of how the connectors are arranged from the unit? Annoyingly, the 24 pin is split into an 18 pin and 10 pin from the connectors on the PSU. I don't have a voltmeter to test each connector unfortunately, I've never done anything like that before though so not sure if I want to mess around with something like that.
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