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post #2631 of 14574
Fair enough Krissy

GOdeath/wermad: I would strongly recommend against using adhesive-lined heatshrink. When heated, a noticeable amount of the glue/adhesive seeps out of the ends - essentially, defeating the main purpose of uni-sleeving (aesthetics!). Also, it would be a pain if the segments came out uneven and you wanted to redo some of them.

Copen: MDPC-X does not carry purple heatshrink, no.
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Copen: MDPC-X does not carry purple heatshrink, no.
shocking ... I wonder why?
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My guess would be that heatshrink is very hard to colour match. It has a habit of changing colour after being shrunk. I know it took NIls months to decide on the exact shade of the purple sleeving, so getting the heatshrink to match would be very hard.
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post #2634 of 14574
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Fair enough Krissy

GOdeath/wermad: I would strongly recommend against using adhesive-lined heatshrink. When heated, a noticeable amount of the glue/adhesive seeps out of the ends - essentially, defeating the main purpose of uni-sleeving (aesthetics!). Also, it would be a pain if the segments came out uneven and you wanted to redo some of them.

Copen: MDPC-X does not carry purple heatshrink, no.
+1trillion on the not using glue lined, Its just a bad deal all around.
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Fair enough Krissy

GOdeath/wermad: I would strongly recommend against using adhesive-lined heatshrink. When heated, a noticeable amount of the glue/adhesive seeps out of the ends - essentially, defeating the main purpose of uni-sleeving (aesthetics!). Also, it would be a pain if the segments came out uneven and you wanted to redo some of them.

Copen: MDPC-X does not carry purple heatshrink, no.
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+1trillion on the not using glue lined, Its just a bad deal all around.
Has worked great for me. no mess, no fuss, no loose lines. I don't understand what you mean by "unisleeve". is that individually sleeve. anyways, there is a reason why adhesive shrink exist, is that it holds better, AND to remove it, I have done several times to either correct an error or redo a sleeve and all those times there was never any mess, it comes off quite clean. So, I have no idea which adhesive shrink you guys are using that causes all those things. +quadrillion for me for using stronger and no mess or residue shrink. if any one is interested, I use some from a company call JJ tech. I don't understand why all the fuss. Ill post pics of my two psu and both from start to finish used adhesive shrink. nough said


edit: oem(s) use some strong glue in there shrink wrap. ie: thermaltake's shrink was heavy duty, the shrink I think has reinforced with fibers and it used some super strong glue that has to be yanked. this is NOT the type of shrink i use.
Edited by wermad - 11/13/10 at 6:35pm
post #2636 of 14574
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Fair enough Krissy

GOdeath/wermad: I would strongly recommend against using adhesive-lined heatshrink. When heated, a noticeable amount of the glue/adhesive seeps out of the ends - essentially, defeating the main purpose of uni-sleeving (aesthetics!). Also, it would be a pain if the segments came out uneven and you wanted to redo some of them.

Copen: MDPC-X does not carry purple heatshrink, no.
yea i was just looking at the purply pink color to match it, i dont want glue on it, i know itll probably end up on me and i will end up getting THAT everywhere
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post #2637 of 14574
Far out. How do i sleeve the SATA cables?? It frays so badly. Ive already wasted 4 feet of sata sleeve. The furryletters one. When i try to burn the edges it just mucks it up even more..
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post #2638 of 14574
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Far out. How do i sleeve the SATA cables?? It frays so badly. Ive already wasted 4 feet of sata sleeve. The furryletters one. When i try to burn the edges it just mucks it up even more..
Are you using PET or Clean Cut?

With Clean Cut, the fray should be minimal at best. With PET, you'll have to cut it using a hotknife to get the best results.
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post #2639 of 14574
Allrighty here, let us see if I can ask a question or 8, & have them make sense ...

I can pretty much figure out what the difference is between 3:1 & 4:1 heatshrink, but what are the circumstances someone would use one instead of the other?

@Crysis_Gamer - Do you generally use a heat gun for the jobs you have posted pictures of on here? Also, have you personally used SATA data sleeve from MDPC? Your opinion of me, an amatuer, trying it? To me, it appears that it could be a pain to thread through - a really tight fit to get the connector through 10-12" of sleeve without desroying it ...

I have a PSU I am going to trick out. And, of course, I have some specific questions:

I am going to custom-fit this to my case - shorten all cable lengths, etc. First question here is: After I chop out the unecessary wire, what is the best way to re-attach them? The 1st idea to me is to strip & solder, use a minimal amount of shrink on it, then sleeve accordingly, but I really am not good @ soldering. Could I possibly use some non-insulated butt-connectors after stripping, then shrink, & sleeve accordingly? There is another idea I have, but I would like to hear from anyone reading this & has a moment ...

Next, ... the 20+4 & the separate 4-pin 12V (mobo) cable comes out of a single, larage grommet. I really do NOT want to crack it open - but when I sleeve one of those wires, do I just 'push' some of the sleeve into the grommet & leave it @ that? Doing that way do I risk the sleeve sliding back out @ some point? How about after I push a little extra sleeving into the case, I slide a big enough piece of shrink (big enough for 28 wires, or 20 then 4, then another 4?) as close to the grommet/case as I can, shrink it, & hope that will look good enough? Or should I open the case, sleeve nearly all the way to the end of the wires, shrink accordingly, then close it all back up? Ugh ...

Since I am going to be chopping right into the 20+4, would I be better off just getting a brand new connector & pins instead of removing from orginal & re-using it? And since this PSU actually comes with a 20-pin & two 4-pinners, I could just make a full 24-pin connector & a separate 4-pin for the board behind the CPU ...

I am actually thinking of using ALL new connectors & pins since I am going to custom-fit everything ... & I am using minimal PSU cables for this build. Videocard needs no dedicated power from the PSU - & besides the board, I will only need to power 2 optical drives (SATA) & 3 HDDs (SATA) ... then a custom-length, 4-pin Molex that I will run 2 case fans off of ... Where state-side would any of you suggest I get the bare connectors, pins, & crimper (high-quality stuff, please)? If I can do it that way, then I will only worry about getting my choice(s) of sleeving & shrink from MDPC ...

Ideas? Other ways I should go about attacking this project? Want me to stop typing?

OK.

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post #2640 of 14574
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Has worked great for me. no mess, no fuss, no loose lines. I don't understand what you mean by "unisleeve". is that individually sleeve. anyways, there is a reason why adhesive shrink exist, is that it holds better, AND to remove it, I have done several times to either correct an error or redo a sleeve and all those times there was never any mess, it comes off quite clean. So, I have no idea which adhesive shrink you guys are using that causes all those things. +quadrillion for me for using stronger and no mess or residue shrink. if any one is interested, I use some from a company call JJ tech. I don't understand why all the fuss. Ill post pics of my two psu and both from start to finish used adhesive shrink. nough said


edit: oem(s) use some strong glue in there shrink wrap. ie: thermaltake's shrink was heavy duty, the shrink I think has reinforced with fibers and it used some super strong glue that has to be yanked. this is NOT the type of shrink i use.
Unisleeved is individually . I normally don’t down talk a product unless I have had the full experience with it lol. I have tried 3-4 or so different types of adhesive lined shrink tubing from 3:1 - 4:1 as well as numerous types of regular heatshrink.

What I was getting at is that adhesive lined heatshrink has a glue lining on the inside of the tube, which when it is heated the glue is made to "flow". Being that you are shrinking the tube down to a smaller size, the glue accumulates so that there is just enough surface area to hold it. More often than not, that results in a small (sometimes very small) amounts bulging or seeping out the ends.

On top of that, the glue is designed to be permanent. In all of the tubing I have used, once that glue hardens you either have to dissect it with an exacto knife (think science class with the frog) or cut it off, either way it rarely "slides off" because it "flows" into the sleeving.

In a world (sleeving) where "perfectness" is most peoples goal, it just looks "off" to have that. And for anyone starting out (making many mistakes as I did) its a bad idea all around.

Here is a small example on a sata cable I sleeved.



But in any case there was not really any fuss, just trying to help others from the headache.

Also if you have found a quality adhesive heatshrink that does not do that, awesome! Post a link where you got it and some pics bro!

Edited by Lutro0 - 11/14/10 at 7:01am
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