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For you guys making your own cables (not just the sleeving), I'm going to be doing a SATA power cable for my HX750. I have a few questions for you before I start ordering parts.

My whole goal is to have just one power line for all of my SATA devices since it is neater that way and I could custom space them instead of having bows and such.

1. Is there a connector limit? For example, the case I ordered has 5 HDD bays and 5 Optical Drive bays. Now, I'm never going to fill all of them up. As of right now, I have 1 DVD-rom burner and two hard drives planned. In the future, I might add a blu-ray player and an SSD (or two!) So at most, it would be 6 devices. I would like to put a few extra connections on so I don't need to go through all of this when I add another device.

2. I realize I'll have to buy a crimper and some pins (as well as 18AWG multistrand). Obviously there aren't pins on the SATA cable itself but since it's a modular PSU, I'll need the cable to PSU connection pins. What kind of pins do they use in that? Are they your standard ATX/PCI-e pins? I haven't actually pulled any pins on it yet but I assume the cable side are male?

3. Do you guys tin your leads? I usually tin my wires because most of my soldering is done on boat electronics and I have to deal with saltwater vapor which oxidizes copper very quickly. I don't see my computer being in that harsh of an environment but if it's standard practice, I'll do it.
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That's him posting, FWIW

Thank goodness I can avoid this discussion since I don't crimp
>.< lol
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Originally Posted by MijnWraak View Post
That's him posting, FWIW

Thank goodness I can avoid this discussion since I don't crimp
Kinda wished I could've.

But crimping is fun. If you ever have the chance to do it I recommend it. Not because of the task but because when you've got the hang of it the feeling you get from accomplishing the task is quite nice.

@dual brain... next time I want to express something in words I'm gonna PM you so I can get it right the 1st time instead of getting into a minor pissing contest over such a minor issue. You've got enough brains to go round so thanks for that.

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That's funny....all my crimps look like the one on the left. Looks like the tool on the bottom in the other pic just isn't ratcheted all the way down. It took me a good run of 25-30 pins to get it right.You have to know where to place the pin in the tool to get it right. If not, you're guaranteed to screw it up. To drive this point home, I will strip and pin some wire after work with my "sub par" crimping tool.
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And I referred to the crimping tool too

The crimping tool is 100% not the same. The people who had the frozen / PPCS (both made by Han-Long) before and switched to this one know it exactly.

A car has 4 wheels, but that doesn't mean all cars are the same. A crimping tool has two handles and a crimping-bracket, but that doesn't mean they are doing the same crimp. The crimping result is different: "B" has overlapped wings, "A" has bite-and-twirl-into-insulation crimps (as a good crimp should be).

Funny thing that so many people in forums "think" and confidently speak about things, which they don't know, because they never had it. The ones that know, will read it and smile. No offense, just what I see every day.

But as pictures might help, here is MDPC bite-and-twirl-on the inside-of-the-insulation-crimp on the left, (center is an example of short-wing-crimp-terminals), and Han-Long overlap-only-crimp on the right. Picture courtesy by Howard:



This should explain the differences. To believe something is different than knowing facts.


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For you guys making your own cables (not just the sleeving), I'm going to be doing a SATA power cable for my HX750. I have a few questions for you before I start ordering parts.

My whole goal is to have just one power line for all of my SATA devices since it is neater that way and I could custom space them instead of having bows and such.

1. Is there a connector limit? For example, the case I ordered has 5 HDD bays and 5 Optical Drive bays. Now, I'm never going to fill all of them up. As of right now, I have 1 DVD-rom burner and two hard drives planned. In the future, I might add a blu-ray player and an SSD (or two!) So at most, it would be 6 devices. I would like to put a few extra connections on so I don't need to go through all of this when I add another device.
You tend to run into problems with more than 3 or 4 hard drives on the same cable as they might not all spin up properly at bootup due to the load demand. Some PSU's can handle more, but there is no guarantee. My advice for your setup would be one cable for the hard drives and another for the optical drives.
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You tend to run into problems with more than 3 or 4 hard drives on the same cable as they might not all spin up properly at bootup due to the load demand. Some PSU's can handle more, but there is no guarantee. My advice for your setup would be one cable for the hard drives and another for the optical drives.
That is what I was afraid of I guess I'll have to build two custom lines then.
    
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If this is for your Centurion 5 it will work out fine. That's the way I set mine up when I was using one. They are nice cases, but the cable management is a real pain.
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If this is for your Centurion 5 it will work out fine. That's the way I set mine up when I was using one. They are nice cases, but the cable management is a real pain.
Looks like he's in the right place then

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You tend to run into problems with more than 3 or 4 hard drives on the same cable as they might not all spin up properly at bootup due to the load demand. Some PSU's can handle more, but there is no guarantee. My advice for your setup would be one cable for the hard drives and another for the optical drives.
This got me thinking. I have a HD, SSD, and a fan controller with 6 fans connected to it all on one cable with extensions. Is that fine?
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If this is for your Centurion 5 it will work out fine. That's the way I set mine up when I was using one. They are nice cases, but the cable management is a real pain.
I have a CM Sniper Black coming on Monday.
    
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