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I would like to go with Furryletter's clean cut, and I want to individually sleeve my various PSU cables. 1/8" is the size I should order right?

Correct sir! Make sure to just call him as he will give you a better price and shipping. His number is on the listings.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8-BRAIDED-EXPANDABLE-SLEEVING-CLEAN-CUT-25ft-/360266476987?pt=Car_Audio_Video&vxp=mtr&hash=item53e18e2dbb#ht_500wt_1180
Edited by Lutro0 - 5/29/12 at 7:51pm
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wheee.gif Thanks!
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Most of us crimp our own wires and make them from scratch or at least if you sell them it should be like that.
However you will want to find an extensions that uses 18awg wire nothing more nothing less and that is 12in or less otherwise you may get noise/ripple with the addition of the extra length.
There is not a specific one I could recommend as I make my own however someone else may have a specific seller they like.

Thanks, but I thought each wire is different and needs to have a certain amount of volts? So now I'm assuming they are all the same, but I just need to make sure that each wire goes to to the corresponding hole on the other connector, correct?

Also, just for clarification, If I were to make a 12" 24 pin connector, I would need

Approximately 30 Feet of this:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1785/ele-129/18AWG_Wire_-_Black.html

24 of these
http://ftwpc.com/cables-and-sleeving/sleeving-tools/crimp-contacts/molex-mini-fit-jr-atx-eps-pci-express-pins-female.html

24 of these
http://ftwpc.com/cables-and-sleeving/sleeving-tools/crimp-contacts/molex-mini-fit-jr-atx-eps-pci-express-pins-female-1.html

1 of these
http://ftwpc.com/cables-and-sleeving/sleeving-tools/cable-housings-connectors/ftw-pc-24-pin-atx-female-connector-black-1.html

And 1 of these
http://ftwpc.com/cables-and-sleeving/sleeving-tools/cable-housings-connectors/ftw-pc-24-pin-atx-female-connector-black.html



If I'm correct, do you have any recommendations to buy these materials? Partly because some of these things aren't in stock, and partly due to the fact that It would cost about $13 just to make a 24 pin extension, which costs more than the Pre-made Pre-sleeved extensions.
    
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post #7334 of 14265
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Well I will give you two routes one sometimes works and the other is failsafe.
1. Check on the psu for that empty pin and see if there is a pin in it on the psu, if there is check it with a volt meter - sometimes they leave the pin it in and it will work fine however sometimes thats not the case. If it is you can just wire it as a normal cable.
2. Split the double cable someplace along the line in a hidden place (behind the mobo tray) and make a Y split so that their is a single pin on each end.
You will never want to try to stuff two sleeved cables into one atx connector, as it looks ugly and most of the time very hard to do.
Does that all make sense.

I am not sure if you think that there are 2 cables and you are telling me to make them 1 cable and sleeve it, or if you think there is 1 cable and you think I should split it. And I made a mistake, I assumed that since my connectors are regular PCI-e at both ends (which I realize in hindsight was pretty stupid.) the wires would be in the same places at both ends. But it was the +2 wires to make it from 6 pin to 8 pin (if that makes sense.) I will check the PSU when I get home, and take some pictures of the connector.

later...

Here are the pictures, after checking my PSU, there is a pin there (yay) I don't know if it is live yet.
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Edited by insertacoolname - 5/30/12 at 7:07am
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I really want to do this, but out of all the tutorials and videos here, I don't see anything on sleeving the cables that are physically attached to the psu that can't simply be unplugged, like the mobo 24 pin for example. Looking for the process to removing these cables from the psu in order to sleeve them.


Maybe I am just blind but can I be directed to someplace that shows me how and are there any extra tools that aren't listed here needed fro that process? Thanks!

Also want use MDPX but more importantly need UV reactive green. Do they make that?
Edited by Outlawed - 5/30/12 at 8:39am
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No luck, the pin isn't grounded, any helpful links/tips for a wire noob trying to make his case beautiful? Should I open up the PSU (voiding the warranty, not that I mind that much) and see if I can ground the pin then?

edit: This question probably belongs to another thread...
Edited by insertacoolname - 5/30/12 at 9:40am
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I really want to do this, but out of all the tutorials and videos here, I don't see anything on sleeving the cables that are physically attached to the psu that can't simply be unplugged, like the mobo 24 pin for example. Looking for the process to removing these cables from the psu in order to sleeve them.
Maybe I am just blind but can I be directed to someplace that shows me how and are there any extra tools that aren't listed here needed fro that process? Thanks!
Also want use MDPX but more importantly need UV reactive green. Do they make that?

You don't remove the wires. Just remove the pin from the connector and then slide the sleeve/paracord down and then you can heatshrink inside or ziptie to hold it all in place.
I removed multiple cables at once, put a big piece of heatshrink over them and that held it all snug. Good luck thumb.gif
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insertacoolname - I did as Lutro0 has suggested and spliced the dual wires on my cables following Ontic's Guide Step 16 onwards. It works and if you take your time looks neat.
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post #7339 of 14265
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Thanks, but I thought each wire is different and needs to have a certain amount of volts? So now I'm assuming they are all the same, but I just need to make sure that each wire goes to to the corresponding hole on the other connector, correct?
Also, just for clarification, If I were to make a 12" 24 pin connector, I would need
Approximately 30 Feet of this:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1785/ele-129/18AWG_Wire_-_Black.html
24 of these
http://ftwpc.com/cables-and-sleeving/sleeving-tools/crimp-contacts/molex-mini-fit-jr-atx-eps-pci-express-pins-female.html
24 of these
http://ftwpc.com/cables-and-sleeving/sleeving-tools/crimp-contacts/molex-mini-fit-jr-atx-eps-pci-express-pins-female-1.html
1 of these
http://ftwpc.com/cables-and-sleeving/sleeving-tools/cable-housings-connectors/ftw-pc-24-pin-atx-female-connector-black-1.html
And 1 of these
http://ftwpc.com/cables-and-sleeving/sleeving-tools/cable-housings-connectors/ftw-pc-24-pin-atx-female-connector-black.html
If I'm correct, do you have any recommendations to buy these materials? Partly because some of these things aren't in stock, and partly due to the fact that It would cost about $13 just to make a 24 pin extension, which costs more than the Pre-made Pre-sleeved extensions.

That all looks right. I would get the male 24pin connector without the wings, it can be found on PerfPC But everything else is perfect. You will need a crimper as well and I would get plenty of extra wire and extra crimps as you will mess allot of until you get the hang of it.

If you don't have a pin remover you will want one of those as well, get the Original Molex Pin Remover.

Yea its kinda pricey but there is always a price to get things done right. Its pricey to get the supplies for one 24pin but if you were doing a whole system it would equal out.
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I am not sure if you think that there are 2 cables and you are telling me to make them 1 cable and sleeve it, or if you think there is 1 cable and you think I should split it. And I made a mistake, I assumed that since my connectors are regular PCI-e at both ends (which I realize in hindsight was pretty stupid.) the wires would be in the same places at both ends. But it was the +2 wires to make it from 6 pin to 8 pin (if that makes sense.) I will check the PSU when I get home, and take some pictures of the connector.
later...
Here are the pictures, after checking my PSU, there is a pin there (yay) I don't know if it is live yet.
-snip-

Yup same thing applies, Big Elf posted a great tutorial on it made by Ontic.
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I really want to do this, but out of all the tutorials and videos here, I don't see anything on sleeving the cables that are physically attached to the psu that can't simply be unplugged, like the mobo 24 pin for example. Looking for the process to removing these cables from the psu in order to sleeve them.
Maybe I am just blind but can I be directed to someplace that shows me how and are there any extra tools that aren't listed here needed fro that process? Thanks!
Also want use MDPX but more importantly need UV reactive green. Do they make that?

You can do 1 of two things.

A. Open up the psu and sleeve it up inside the psu and then shrink it off inside and then zip tie the whole thing to hold them secure (best method) If you check out my Aspros Mod it will show you exactly what I mean but this, I took many photos of it so it should make sense.

B. Dont open the psu and sleeve it up to the end and then use a large peice of heatshrink to shrink it right by the opening (no so good method)

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Originally Posted by insertacoolname View Post

No luck, the pin isn't grounded, any helpful links/tips for a wire noob trying to make his case beautiful? Should I open up the PSU (voiding the warranty, not that I mind that much) and see if I can ground the pin then?
edit: This question probably belongs to another thread...

I would just check out Ontics guide that will explain it. Big Elf Posted it. Only use Ontics guide for the split wire method as his sleeving method is a bit experimental and should be done by experienced sleevers.
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Originally Posted by Big Elf View Post

insertacoolname - I did as Lutro0 has suggested and spliced the dual wires on my cables following Ontic's Guide Step 16 onwards. It works and if you take your time looks neat.

Yup thats a great guide for the split wire!
post #7340 of 14265
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That all looks right. I would get the male 24pin connector without the wings

What are the wings used for? Just curious.

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