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I've got a sleeving question.
I'm doing the 24-pin on an HX1000, which is hardwired.
There are 3 or 4 holes in the plug that have 2 wires going into them (one wire a little thinner than the other).
Do I put both wires in one sleeve? or do I splice the wires together inside the psu and run only one wire to the plug?
A prompt answer would be greatly apprieciated!
here's a picture of my dilemmia-
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I'm afraid that I would not be able to fit both wires, sleeve, and shrinkwrap into the socket hole.
Edited by bob808 - 6/3/12 at 9:35am
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Ontic's guide, Step 16


Edit: I should have read more carefully. As it's a fixed cable you'd have to put the sleeving on some of it before you spliced it. Opening it up to splice it would be the neatest solution but you'd lose your warranty.

Alternatively you could just create an extension for the 24 pin connector.
Edited by Big Elf - 6/3/12 at 9:48am
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+rep!
I have already voided the warranty... thumb.gif
so it's safe to splice the wires then?
I figure that will be the cleanest way to do it.
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Yes, as long as you do a good, soldered splice and cover with heatshrink it's fine. You'd be amazed how many times this has been asked recently.
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You might just as well remove one wire if you're going to splice them like this. Such a connection makes no sense.

The reason for double wires in some connections, on your picture on the +12V line, is to increase the gauge of the wire on that line to allow for more current to flow through than it could with single 18AWG wire. When you're splicing the wires creating a Y connection like that, you're leaving that single wire thinner that the double wire part, that's a bad idea. You could just use a thicker wire on the line that has double wires, or use a Y connection but use a thicker wire on the single wire part of it. Making a Y connection where all 3 segments are the same gauge makes no sense, V connection would make sense, as II connection would too.
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From what I was told by Seasonic the double wires are used to reduce impedance and increase the stability of the voltage not to increase' the 'gauge' of the wire, after all it would have been easier for the manufacturer to just use a 16AWG instead.

Edit: Just to add that that's the reason they use them on the 24 pin cable.
Edited by Big Elf - 6/3/12 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by wlw wl View Post

You might just as well remove one wire if you're going to splice them like this. Such a connection makes no sense.

except that I traced the wires and they actually go to 2 different places in the psu. One goes to the mainboard, and the other goes to one of the daughter-boards. If they just wanted more AWG guage, I think they would have just used 16 guage wire instead of 18 and 22 (or whatever).
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Originally Posted by Big Elf View Post

Yes, as long as you do a good, soldered splice and cover with heatshrink it's fine. You'd be amazed how many times this has been asked recently.

Yeah, I figured it had been asked before, but this is a might long thread to go scrolling for answers... Thanks and plus rep to you guys thumb.gif
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From what I was told by Seasonic the double wires are used to reduce impedance and increase the stability of the voltage not to increase' the 'gauge' of the wire, after all it would have been easier for the manufacturer to just use a 16AWG instead.
Edit: Just to add that that's the reason they use them on the 24 pin cable.

hmmm.. not sure what to do still.. I would like to splice them, and dont see how it would be any different than using an extension (that does not have 2 wires going to one hole to reduce impedance)
Edited by bob808 - 6/3/12 at 10:26am
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It was the one of the first questions I ever asked too biggrin.gif
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except that I traced the wires and they actually go to 2 different places in the psu. One goes to the mainboard, and the other goes to one of the daughter-boards. If they just wanted more AWG guage, I think they would have just used 16 guage wire instead of 18 and 22 (or whatever).
Yeah, I figured it had been asked before, but this is a might long thread to go scrolling for answers... Thanks and plus rep to you guys thumb.gif
hmmm.. not sure what to do still.. I would like to splice them, and dont see how it would be any different than using an extension (that does not have 2 wires going to one hole to reduce impedance)

here is what i did for the same problem your having
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this is the way i managed to sleeve the double pins in the 24pin instead of a "V" connection it is now a "Y" connection
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bob808 - If you splice them in the PSU it's still the same as them being connected to the single pin at the connector so will work just the same. The power is still coming from 2 different sources.
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