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Originally Posted by adi518 View Post

The non-oem pins you tried were all without long wings or did some have them? A bit hard to understand from the picture but it looks like the Moddiy pin has such long wings? Hmm, wait a sec, the Seasonic cable has double wires and they used these gold pins on it, that means that yes, it probably does have long wings. Question is, if there's a major difference between this long-wing non-oem pin and the original molex one.
About the 4-pin molex pins, why can't I crimp them with it?
Took this picture off moddiy's website, supposedly showing 7 types of pins that are crimp-able with the tool:
Maybe it only works good with the non-oem pins.

I am fairly certain the mod-diy pins are short winged. I have never come across a non molex pin that had the long wings for the atx pins. But that doesnt mean alot as there is most likely a ton out there.

Molex does make gold plated pins of the same type, infact they make a few types.

If you look at those crimps you can begin to see where the wire is being smashed by a half overlap and half bit crimp. The first one on the left gives you a good idea of the force being exerted on those pins and its bad crimp ontop of it.

The crimper can be used for small jobs, but I would be leary about using it on many jobs.

Here is an quick example of some crimps using molex crimps using from top to bottom (SN-28B Crimper, MDPC Crimper, Hans Long Crimper)



You will see the the SN-28B Crimper even on the lowest setting still crushes the top insulation and bites too deep into the wire.

The MDPC Crimper Gently bites the wire while keeping the integrity of the wire.

The Hands Long Overlap Crimper simply overlaps the wings.
post #7872 of 14333
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I bought everything separately, some stuff I found locally.

I bought some stuff and put this together today after seeing your kit tongue.gifbiggrin.gif


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post #7873 of 14333
Just got my order from Nils. He sent a sample of his sleeve and heat shrink, and I gotta say next time, MDPC all the way. Very nice sleeve and heat shrink. It might just be because I've suffered through paracord but the aesthetics of normal sleeves has become much more attractive as well. lol. thumb.gif
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Got my crimper from Nils today and immediately tried it out on an ATX pin. All I can say is, what a freaking difference from the crimper I've been using. Absolutely perfect crimp out of the box. Neat that he sends crimp samples with the tool.
One less headache to worry about when sleeving, and the next time around I won't have to spend all that time trying to get good crimps. I'll just use my old crimper for molex power pins, etc and keep the MDPC crimper for ATX in good working form as long as possible.
Now if I can get just a little bit better/faster with shrinkless sleeving I'll have it licked.
post #7875 of 14333
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Originally Posted by Lutro0 View Post

I am fairly certain the mod-diy pins are short winged. I have never come across a non molex pin that had the long wings for the atx pins. But that doesnt mean alot as there is most likely a ton out there.
Molex does make gold plated pins of the same type, infact they make a few types.
If you look at those crimps you can begin to see where the wire is being smashed by a half overlap and half bit crimp. The first one on the left gives you a good idea of the force being exerted on those pins and its bad crimp ontop of it.
The crimper can be used for small jobs, but I would be leary about using it on many jobs.
Here is an quick example of some crimps using molex crimps using from top to bottom (SN-28B Crimper, MDPC Crimper, Hans Long Crimper)

You will see the the SN-28B Crimper even on the lowest setting still crushes the top insulation and bites too deep into the wire.
The MDPC Crimper Gently bites the wire while keeping the integrity of the wire.
The Hands Long Overlap Crimper simply overlaps the wings.

As usual, that was quite informative. I can see how the MDPC tool is clearly doing a better crimp. However, all of this isn't depending on how thick the insulation is?

Can you also relate to the molex power crimping?
Edited by adi518 - 9/4/12 at 11:25pm
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I have begun sleeving the new PSU smile.gif
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Just received my paracord and pin removal tool in the mail. Can't wait to dive in and practice sleeving. Been watching all of Lutro0's videos getting excited!

Here's a couple of teaser photos showing my color choices (Burgundy and Navy Blue from all_outdoor_and_more):

To scale next to a penny.


And a better shot with the texture more in focus.

I tried to make the colors as accurate as possible. They really are more beautiful in person than what appears in the ebay photos (no surprise!). I'm going to practice with some extension cables, then practice more in my old Antec SX1030B as soon as I can kick my wife off The Sims to do it.
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ok... I am so happy I went with MDPC-X this time, the quality of Nils sleeving is absolutely amazing.


However, I have already run into a problem! Broken pins... I've broken three on my first cable because the force required to pull them out and break them is sorta similar frown.gif So basically, how do I get them out(with limited tools and also being able to use them again since I didn't get a crimper)? I have read it somewhere or watched a video on it but I can't find anything when it matters most redface.gif
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ok... I am so happy I went with MDPC-X this time, the quality of Nils sleeving is absolutely amazing.

However, I have already run into a problem! Broken pins... I've broken three on my first cable because the force required to pull them out and break them is sorta similar frown.gif So basically, how do I get them out(with limited tools and also being able to use them again since I didn't get a crimper)? I have read it somewhere or watched a video on it but I can't find anything when it matters most redface.gif

I ran into a similar problem with pins, it is my first experience sleeving so I didn't expect any miracles but geez. Those sleeving guys must develop some darn handy tricks to do this all the time. My fingers are sore and bloody after a 24 pin an 8 pin, the 6 pin and other various randoms will have to wait for tomorrow. Anyways, I noticed that it's quite random with how easily a pin will come out or not. Some came out with little force, some were a pain in the toosh and the one I broke had the crimp itself give out before the pin did. I don't have extra pins or wiring equipment so I took an old pin off my old PSU and stripped the wire, then proceeded to re attach the pin and short piece of wire from the old PSU to the pin-less wire left over from the new one with a simple twist and tape. Turned on the PC and it worked just fine and you don't notice what-so-ever with the sleeving. I was using flattened paper clips slightly grinded to be skinny and thin enough to use. Not sure now much more effective the tools you can get are considering I hear they break pretty easily. Those are my sleeving experiences, all of today thumb.gif

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Here I will re-post the picture bigger and rotated.



^ I love how I voided the warranty within 5 minutes of opening it laugher.gif

And here's some pics of it installed, the GPU cable and a few other little things will get done tomorrow. I need to make myself some more of my homemade pin remover tools (opened up paper clip, flattened with a hammer and grinded down to be skinny enough to use) which has to wait, and my fingers don't mind tongue.gif



Edited by InsideJob - 9/6/12 at 6:54pm
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