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I have a few questions before I order all of my sleeve from MDPC-X.

First of all, I have already ordered my Molex pin remover, 150 crimps, and connectors from Lutr0Customs. All I need now is the sleeve. After much mental deliberation, I finally decided on getting the best; MDPC-X, rather than paracord. I will be sleeving my motherboard 24-pin, 8-pin PCIe, 6-pin PCIe, SATA data, SATA power, and front panel connectors, as well as my mouse and keyboard for poops and giggles. I am going to go with a triple color scheme, with a majority black, with a stripe dark grey, then a stripe of red on the very edge. For my sleeving job, I was going to order 50 meters of sleeve; 30 meters of black, 10 meters of "Shade 19", and 10 meters of red. Will 50 meters be enough for me to sleeve everything? I have also considered just getting the pack of 100m of black sleeve that Nils sells in bulk, but I really want a triple color scheme.

Will I be able to just solder my crimps on, or will I need a crimper for it to work properly? I have many, many years of experience with soldering, and it didn't feel right paying $50 for a simple crimper.

I am going to be sleeving a SeaSonic X 750; will I need to use the supplied connectors, or can I use the ones that I ordered from Lutr0?

Thanks for any insight - cheers,

Brennan
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Originally Posted by briddell View Post

Will I be able to just solder my crimps on, or will I need a crimper for it to work properly? I have many, many years of experience with soldering, and it didn't feel right paying $50 for a simple crimper.

When you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail? Crimps are for crimping, not for soldering smile.gif
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post #8953 of 14333
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Originally Posted by briddell View Post

I have a few questions before I order all of my sleeve from MDPC-X.

First of all, I have already ordered my Molex pin remover, 150 crimps, and connectors from Lutr0Customs. All I need now is the sleeve. After much mental deliberation, I finally decided on getting the best; MDPC-X, rather than paracord. I will be sleeving my motherboard 24-pin, 8-pin PCIe, 6-pin PCIe, SATA data, SATA power, and front panel connectors, as well as my mouse and keyboard for poops and giggles. I am going to go with a triple color scheme, with a majority black, with a stripe dark grey, then a stripe of red on the very edge. For my sleeving job, I was going to order 50 meters of sleeve; 30 meters of black, 10 meters of "Shade 19", and 10 meters of red. Will 50 meters be enough for me to sleeve everything? I have also considered just getting the pack of 100m of black sleeve that Nils sells in bulk, but I really want a triple color scheme.

Will I be able to just solder my crimps on, or will I need a crimper for it to work properly? I have many, many years of experience with soldering, and it didn't feel right paying $50 for a simple crimper.

I am going to be sleeving a SeaSonic X 750; will I need to use the supplied connectors, or can I use the ones that I ordered from Lutr0?

Thanks for any insight - cheers,

Brennan

I did just this at first. But I found the problem with this was that once you started to melt the solder, the pin got so hot it melted the coating on the wire. And once you loose your strenght at its stress point it creates a fatigue point where the wire will be weak and eventually break. I did have some success with 18 Ga wire where it didnt melt the coating, but the ratio of bad/good ones wasnt good enough for me. So I bought the MDPC crimper with pins and havnt looked back. So much easier, quicker, and headache free.

One idea is to buy the crimper and then sell it here when your done. I know most OCN users will snatch one up, because I tried for a couple months(and lost out on a couple by mere minutes) before breaking down and buying one directly from Nils.

And just to note, my electrical soldering skills arnt the best, but I do have experience with plumbing soldering. Different beasts I know, but lets you get an idea of my skill level.

EDIT:
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiSK View Post

When you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail? Crimps are for crimping, not for soldering smile.gif

Lol that is great, I will have to remember that one for this guy I work with. He has the oldest tools I had ever seen and always wants to use a hammer and pliers to fix any/every thing
Edited by goodtobeking - 3/11/13 at 9:38am
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post #8954 of 14333
So I tried to sleeve for the first time last night after getting my Lutro0 order in the mail.
I thought it went okay at first...

And then after I put the second one in, this happened...


HELP MEEEEEE
post #8955 of 14333
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jwright0291 View Post

So I tried to sleeve for the first time last night after getting my Lutro0 order in the mail.
I thought it went okay at first...
And then after I put the second one in, this happened...


HELP MEEEEEE

Heatshrink with paracord is difficult but looks like you haven't shrunk the headshrink down enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxyrkD7HaV4
post #8956 of 14333
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfry94 View Post

My package arrived from lutro0, that chocolate bar made my day. cheers Mike

Sleeving will begin as soon as i can put my order in at mdpc for the heatshrink and b magic sleeve. I'm going to be sewing the cables together, then im going to shorten the non modular cable's so that they only just reach the back of the case and the connector will not be seen. My plan is to then make extensions that will go to the motherboard 24pin and the 8pin. Im also thinking of forming a blanking panel that will cover over the connections at the back.

The picture's still not that great but i am getting a decent camera soon as i need one because im going to gamescom in august.

Wait, where did the chocolate bar come from.... And I am glad you like everything! Cant wait to see what you do with it all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by briddell View Post

I have a few questions before I order all of my sleeve from MDPC-X.

First of all, I have already ordered my Molex pin remover, 150 crimps, and connectors from Lutr0Customs. All I need now is the sleeve. After much mental deliberation, I finally decided on getting the best; MDPC-X, rather than paracord. I will be sleeving my motherboard 24-pin, 8-pin PCIe, 6-pin PCIe, SATA data, SATA power, and front panel connectors, as well as my mouse and keyboard for poops and giggles. I am going to go with a triple color scheme, with a majority black, with a stripe dark grey, then a stripe of red on the very edge. For my sleeving job, I was going to order 50 meters of sleeve; 30 meters of black, 10 meters of "Shade 19", and 10 meters of red. Will 50 meters be enough for me to sleeve everything? I have also considered just getting the pack of 100m of black sleeve that Nils sells in bulk, but I really want a triple color scheme.

Will I be able to just solder my crimps on, or will I need a crimper for it to work properly? I have many, many years of experience with soldering, and it didn't feel right paying $50 for a simple crimper.

I am going to be sleeving a SeaSonic X 750; will I need to use the supplied connectors, or can I use the ones that I ordered from Lutr0?

Thanks for any insight - cheers,

Brennan

My connectors work just like the SS ones, just make sure you get the right ones.

Honestly - a good crimper is expensive yes, mine is 50 and nils is around 80 with crimps added. But how much is your time worth? You will go through your project so much faster and enjoy it alot more.
I am not saying any of this to get you to buy from me, I just know you will have a much easier time with a crimper. If you can spend 20 dollars, get one of the Hans Long Crimper from Frozen or Performance-pcs. They are not the best crimpers but if its between you soldering them or crimping then please get the crimper.

I am not trying to discourage you from trying something new or that you dont have good soldering skills. I just know you will have an easier time with a crimper.

If I have to rent one out to you I will. Let me know!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jwright0291 View Post

So I tried to sleeve for the first time last night after getting my Lutro0 order in the mail.
I thought it went okay at first...

HELP MEEEEEE

Its looking like the heatshrink is not being fully shrunk. It also helps to melt the tip of the paracord onto the wire first to give it some extra grab and then make sure to put your heatgun on it until its totally shrunk and even melted a bit if the sleeve underneath. If you are using a lighter - heat it up and wait a sec and then repeat so you dont burn the HS.

Also you may want to look into heatshrinkless as its easier IMO and those wires will never pull out if you use that method.

Watch the HS Style paracord sleeving guide again making sure to notice how long I hold the heatgun on it and then how gentle I am with them. Paracord and HS Style is not always the strongest just because of the type of material it is, so if you are not melting it under the HS it will slide or if you are rough with it, it will pull out.
post #8957 of 14333
I am curious, when doing heatshrink-less paracord sleeving, what is the best way to do so when you aren't completely re-doing the wires? I ask because while my first MCP35X Pump turned out alright (actually pretty good IMHO smile.gif ), I'd like my second one to look perfect. I have some MDPC-X crimpers, but I just really, really don't want to cut and crimp my pump wires :/

The two connectors, in case anyone doesn't know, are:
1x 4-Pin MOLEX with 2 Wires
1x 4-Pin PWM Fan with 2 Wires

I will be using Black Paracord. I have some heatshrink, but it's not great stuff (only 2:1) and I always end up ALMOST burning it (real men use lighters tongue.gif)....





   
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I am curious, when doing heatshrink-less paracord sleeving, what is the best way to do so...

You could either void the warranty and open up the pumps and superglue the sleeve inside the pump housing (you'll need to file open the gap in the casing a bit) or superglue the paracord at the pump end and use heatshrink to tidy it up. Then just use the heatshrinkless 'tack' method at the molex pins but you'll need to use heatshrink on the fan connector. An extra piece of SATA shrink on the fan connector covering the bottom part of it and the normal heatshrink can look neat. Also change the housings for black ones.
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I just recently did my MCP35x2 about a week ago with paracord. I ended up shortening the wires because they give you so much that I didnt need. But instead of putting on Molex connectors, I put on some mini taminya connectors. Males and females, reason is because I cant stand the Molex 4 pin connectors for just 12v.

But as for sleeving. I had done it once before and I wasnt happy with the job. I did what you did and just put heatshrink on the wires where they come out of the pumps. It was fine at first but ended up pulling away from the pump and you could see the wires. I also indiviually sleeved the wires for the PWM/Tach sensor at first and didnt like it as well because it just didnt look right.

So I redid it and it came out perfect this time(as with everything with sleeving, practice makes perfect). What I did was took apart my pumps, and tucked the paracord just barely inside the housing so it couldnt come out and I didnt have to use heatshrink. But in order to do that I had to carve out a little plastic from the top housing where the wires go into to make enough room. Kinda scary sounding but worked perfectly(but also voided my warranty by taking apart my pump). Then I did the normal heatshrinkless method with the power cables and crimped on the mini tamiya connectors, which I had painted flat black. But as for the PWM/sensor cable, I sleeved both wires together and used MDPC sleeve to "stealth" the 4 pin fan connector(which I replaced with a black one) by shrinking partly on the connector and the rest on the paracord holding it in place.

Wish I would of taken some pictures when I was done. It turned out perfect IMO and I was very happy with it. After I did the first sleeving job on it I was disappointed.
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