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Hey dcd58, I'm new here also and new to overclocking so this might be like the blind leading the blind but I thought I'd try to help you out a bit. Or at least maybe give you a couple pointers in the right direction.

First off its easier if we can see what you got going on so fill out your sig rig a littlemore. Things like what kind of memory. What brand and model of power supply. What kind of air cooler will make a big difference.

I'd never heard of "Intel processor ID utility". Upon doing a quick search it looks like a tool to ID the chip and thats about it so I'm not sure where that fits in. Your post read a bit like maybe you were using it to change your bios settings ?? Clarify that a bit.

Trying to look at settings can be a little rough on the eyes. Somewhere on here someone started template that looks just the same as bios for this motherboard and is easy to read.

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Ai Overclock Tuner.....................[Manual]

CPU Ratio Setting......................[21.0]

Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Disabled]

Xtreme Phase Full Power Mode...........[Enabled]

BCLK Frequency.........................[181]

PCIE Frequency.........................[100]

DRAM Frequency.........................[DDR3-1451MHz]

UCLK Frequency.........................[2903MHz]

QPI Link Data Rate.....................[Auto]

CPU Voltage Control....................[Manual]

CPU Voltage............................[1.25625] shows 1.240 in cpu-z

CPU PLL Voltage........................[1.80]

QPI/DRAM Core Voltage..................[1.23125]

IOH Voltage............................[1.14]

IOH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]

ICH Voltage............................[1.20]

ICH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]

DRAM Bus Voltage.......................[1.64]

DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]

DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]

DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]

DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]

DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]

DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]

Load-Line Calibration..................[Enabled]

CPU Differential Amplitude.............[800mV]

CPU Clock Skew.........................[Delay 300ps]

CPU Spread Spectrum....................[Disabled]

IOH Clock Skew.........................[Auto]

PCIE Spread Spectrum...................[Disabled]

C1E Support............................[Disabled]

Hardware Prefetcher....................[Enabled]

Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch...........[Enabled]

Intel(r) Virtualization Tech...........[Disabled]

CPU TM Function........................[Enabled]

Execute Disable Bit....................[Enabled]

Intel(r) HT Technology.................[Enabled]

Active Processor Cores.................[All]

A20M...................................[Disabled]

Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Disabled]

Intel(r) C-STATE Tech..................[Disabled]
That is with my numbers. Copy and paste that into notepad or word and Print that out. Restart your computer, hold down the delete button to get into bios.(no offense intended just thought i'd include the basics) Then write down the numbers etc.. for yours. That way you and anybody trying to help you will have a better idea of where you're at. I'm not sure how much different yours will look with the 975 but I imagine it should be pretty similar format wise.

Ok then either before or after that you need to get a few utilities. Prime95. http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/ Realtemp http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/ CPUZ http://www.cpuid.com for starters. I'm writing this is notepad after reading your post so if you already have done this and I missed it in my flipping back and forth forgive me.

OK what you really want. Getting those super high clocks of 4.5 or so. First off I've got to say don't just go trying to jump right up there. Also doing so with auto settings and just bumping your multiplier (cpu ratio settings)doesn't seem like a good idea. I'd be afraid of it auto overvolting something and frying your very nice very expensive chip. Your going to want to get there with as few of volts as possible. Just plugging in a 1.45 vcore when max spec is 1.375 (?) without working your way up slowly just sounds like a bad idea. Rather or not you can get there on air will depend largely on what your temps are doing as you go up.

I started to write out some suggestions of my own but I ereased it figuring thats just taking the blind leading the blind thing a little too far. So instead I'll suggest you do some reading here http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...920-930-a.html
As well as check out xmisery's low voltage settings posted on page 1 of this thread.

OK I can't help it. IF I had your chip. This is what i'd try. I'd start out with xmisery's 3.8 settings. Adjust vcore and qpi to get it stable. Then I'd switch back to the stock multiplier of 25 and lower the FSB down to 152 then check for stability and adjust vcore and qpi accordingly. Once stable again at hopefully a nice low vcore I'd start pushing up that FSB (BCLK Frequency) a little at a time. Checking for stability and adjusting core voltage and qpi/dram core voltage as you go. At 161 you will be over 4 and 181 over 4.5. In all honesty though the few high overclocks that i've seen with the 975 were done with the 19 or 21 multiplier. I'd just have to try out the 25 for myself though.
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Hi guys, I just finish building this Rig. I'm running i7 930 on it and using Prolimatech Megahalem Rev B as my cooler. I have it setup with a push/pull with 1850rpm 120mm fan. I am expecting my temp to be idle around low 30ish and load maybe in high 60ish. Currently it's OC to 4.05Ghz. with 1.265V stable, P95 4hr torture; test but the temperature is higher then what i expected. Idle around 40-44 and load is at 76-80C. Now that seems high, so i redone the thermal past and remounted the heat sink, no change.

Am I missing something? or is this the norm? I would really appreciate any input you might have.

Thanks
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Hey guys. I am completing my build! I am wondering if I can safely use a 4 pin fan splitter off my CPU Fan header to control my scythe push/pull setup. allowing me to control fan speeds? I figured I would have to cut one of the controller cables to allow it to see one fan RPM. thoughts? anyone done this?

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Originally Posted by jt705 View Post
I have heard good things about the Corsair H50. My temps are Max around 57c, idle around 30c. I wish you all the best. I could push my cpu higher. I was running 4.6 for a while but I dropped back a bit. Could not see any difference between 4.4 and 4.6 in normal day to day stuff and 4.6 was a little flaky, but 4.4 is rock solid.
Thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~sizzzle~ View Post
Hey dcd58, I'm new here also and new to overclocking so this might be like the blind leading the blind but I thought I'd try to help you out a bit. Or at least maybe give you a couple pointers in the right direction.

First off its easier if we can see what you got going on so fill out your sig rig a littlemore. Things like what kind of memory. What brand and model of power supply. What kind of air cooler will make a big difference.

I'd never heard of "Intel processor ID utility". Upon doing a quick search it looks like a tool to ID the chip and thats about it so I'm not sure where that fits in. Your post read a bit like maybe you were using it to change your bios settings ?? Clarify that a bit.

Trying to look at settings can be a little rough on the eyes. Somewhere on here someone started template that looks just the same as bios for this motherboard and is easy to read.



That is with my numbers. Copy and paste that into notepad or word and Print that out. Restart your computer, hold down the delete button to get into bios.(no offense intended just thought i'd include the basics) Then write down the numbers etc.. for yours. That way you and anybody trying to help you will have a better idea of where you're at. I'm not sure how much different yours will look with the 975 but I imagine it should be pretty similar format wise.

Ok then either before or after that you need to get a few utilities. Prime95. http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/ Realtemp http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/ CPUZ http://www.cpuid.com for starters. I'm writing this is notepad after reading your post so if you already have done this and I missed it in my flipping back and forth forgive me.

OK what you really want. Getting those super high clocks of 4.5 or so. First off I've got to say don't just go trying to jump right up there. Also doing so with auto settings and just bumping your multiplier (cpu ratio settings)doesn't seem like a good idea. I'd be afraid of it auto overvolting something and frying your very nice very expensive chip. Your going to want to get there with as few of volts as possible. Just plugging in a 1.45 vcore when max spec is 1.375 (?) without working your way up slowly just sounds like a bad idea. Rather or not you can get there on air will depend largely on what your temps are doing as you go up.

I started to write out some suggestions of my own but I ereased it figuring thats just taking the blind leading the blind thing a little too far. So instead I'll suggest you do some reading here http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...920-930-a.html
As well as check out xmisery's low voltage settings posted on page 1 of this thread.

OK I can't help it. IF I had your chip. This is what i'd try. I'd start out with xmisery's 3.8 settings. Adjust vcore and qpi to get it stable. Then I'd switch back to the stock multiplier of 25 and lower the FSB down to 152 then check for stability and adjust vcore and qpi accordingly. Once stable again at hopefully a nice low vcore I'd start pushing up that FSB (BCLK Frequency) a little at a time. Checking for stability and adjusting core voltage and qpi/dram core voltage as you go. At 161 you will be over 4 and 181 over 4.5. In all honesty though the few high overclocks that i've seen with the 975 were done with the 19 or 21 multiplier. I'd just have to try out the 25 for myself though.
Thank you for taking the time to write this for me. I will do as you instructed and hope for the best!
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Hey guys. I am completing my build! I am wondering if I can safely use a 4 pin fan splitter off my CPU Fan header to control my scythe push/pull setup. allowing me to control fan speeds? I figured I would have to cut one of the controller cables to allow it to see one fan RPM. thoughts? anyone done this?

Thanks!
Which Scythe fans are you talking about? Just be careful running some of the high speed fans (especially 2) off a single header. Make sure there that it won't draw too much power and cause and damage. Some fans will work fine doing this.. just double check the specs.
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Hi guys, I just finish building this Rig. I'm running i7 930 on it and using Prolimatech Megahalem Rev B as my cooler. I have it setup with a push/pull with 1850rpm 120mm fan. I am expecting my temp to be idle around low 30ish and load maybe in high 60ish. Currently it's OC to 4.05Ghz. with 1.265V stable, P95 4hr torture; test but the temperature is higher then what i expected. Idle around 40-44 and load is at 76-80C. Now that seems high, so i redone the thermal past and remounted the heat sink, no change.

Am I missing something? or is this the norm? I would really appreciate any input you might have.

Thanks
Hmm, the Mega is a great cooler. 4Ghz OC@1.26v is pretty good. What are your ambient temps? Idling in the low to mid 40's seems slightly high, same with your load temps of 80c. What kind of case do you have and fans? It might just be a TIM application issue (btw which TIM is it?). But we need more info to help.
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Which Scythe fans are you talking about? Just be careful running some of the high speed fans (especially 2) off a single header. Make sure there that it won't draw too much power and cause and damage. Some fans will work fine doing this.. just double check the specs.
AP-15 per your suggestion. I am running an asus P6X58D-e. Motherboard manual says CPU fan supprts 2A (24 W) fan power max.

let me know. I am getting ready to power my system up! minus the gtx480 and scythe fans. still waiting on those.

wish me luck!

p.s. Thanks xmisery for all your help thus far.
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I am trying to make a quick desicion between the E and premium versions of this board. Can anyone lend some insight? I don't want to get the cheaper one and wish I had the premium later. This will be my first build so I'm trying to make the best choices now. Will the E be good for a mild overclock? Does the E support Turbo Boost? Do you really need 2 LAN ports? I read the information in the first post, but Iam still torn. Thanks for any help!
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I am trying to make a quick desicion between the E and premium versions of this board. Can anyone lend some insight? I don't want to get the cheaper one and wish I had the premium later. This will be my first build so I'm trying to make the best choices now. Will the E be good for a mild overclock? Does the E support Turbo Boost? Do you really need 2 LAN ports? I read the information in the first post, but Iam still torn. Thanks for any help!
never make a quick decision ;-) I went with the e instead of the premium. From what I could tell it was a better board. If you don't need dual ethernet.
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It may sound noobish but, why would you need dual ethernet? I can save $50 off my build if I get the E version. Is the preimum better construction or can it handle temps better?
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