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Hi, I just built a new rig on the asus p6x58d premium and a core i7 930 but seem to be having issues with CPU temperature.

Using the stock fan I get idle temp's hovering around 40C up to 50C at times. But what I'm concerned about more are my load temperatures. Using realtemp+prime95, I get temperatures in the high 90s (I've seen it go up to 99 once).

The odd thing is though, when I use the AI suite tool, it shows temperatures at about 10 degrees less. The bios, however, shows idle temperatures that line up with realtemp. I've also tried Speccy and CoreTemp - they both show temperatures that seem to align with the bios. A friend suggests that the board may have a temperature offset, which the AI suite (in windows) is properly calibrated for?

Even if that is the case, that means I'm still getting load temperatures hovering around 90C. This still seems high to me? My CPU fan seems to at anywhere from between 1500 up to about 2200 rpm. Are these numbers maybe low?

I've tried reseating the heatsink twice now, cleaning and then applying a fresh coat of thermal paste each time.

I'd be grateful for any help at this point... if I indeed to have a faulty component somewhere I'd like to get it sorted out as my direct replacement from the place I purchased runs out at the end of this week and I'd rather not have to deal with the OEMs myself :/ If you guys need any more information please do let me know, and thanks in advance!
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How are you applying the thermal paste? What heatsink are you using? Filling out your system specs would also be useful.
    
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How are you applying the thermal paste? What heatsink are you using? Filling out your system specs would also be useful.
I applied the thermal paste as the i7 pic shows here: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=2280892

I'm using the stock heatsink/fan for the i7 930.

System specs are:
Case:Antec Twelve Hundred
Memory: Patriot Extreme Performance Viper II Series DDR3 6GB kit (3x2gb)
CPU: Intel Core i7 930 (Quad Core) running at stock
Motherboard: ASUS P6X58D Premium
Power Supply: Corsair HX Series 850w CMPSU-850HX
Hard Drive: 3x WD Caviar Black (WD1002FAEX) 1000GB SATA3
DVD Drive: Pioneer DVR-218LBK

Here's a screenshot to illustrate the temperature reading discrepancy:
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1180/temprn.png

Also, although the fan xpert thing says I'm set to "turbo" mode, I've tried every combination from the bios: standard, silent, turbo, disabled, manual, and anything else I might have missed. It seems to have no effect on fan speed (if indeed that is the issue)

*edit*
I should also mention, I get a weird USB issue as well. Randomly (and I'm unable to forcibly replicate this) my usb keyboard/mouse will power off for anywhere from 5-20 seconds and then re-power on. There's nothing wrong with either device, I've tried them both on other systems. And I've tried other devices as well. It's quite annoying when I'm playing games and the like :/
Edited by ootz0rz - 6/21/10 at 1:58pm
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Originally Posted by ootz0rz View Post
I applied the thermal paste as the i7 pic shows here: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=2280892

I'm using the stock heatsink/fan for the i7 930.

System specs are:
Case:Antec Twelve Hundred
Memory: Patriot Extreme Performance Viper II Series DDR3 6GB kit (3x2gb)
CPU: Intel Core i7 930 (Quad Core) running at stock
Motherboard: ASUS P6X58D Premium
Power Supply: Corsair HX Series 850w CMPSU-850HX
Hard Drive: 3x WD Caviar Black (WD1002FAEX) 1000GB SATA3
DVD Drive: Pioneer DVR-218LBK

Here's a screenshot to illustrate the temperature reading discrepancy:
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1180/temprn.png

Also, although the fan xpert thing says I'm set to "turbo" mode, I've tried every combination from the bios: standard, silent, turbo, disabled, manual, and anything else I might have missed. It seems to have no effect on fan speed (if indeed that is the issue)

*edit*
I should also mention, I get a weird USB issue as well. Randomly (and I'm unable to forcibly replicate this) my usb keyboard/mouse will power off for anywhere from 5-20 seconds and then re-power on. There's nothing wrong with either device, I've tried them both on other systems. And I've tried other devices as well. It's quite annoying when I'm playing games and the like :/
If you're going to spend that much on a build, why not spend anther $50 and get a decent fan?
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I was going to go out and buy a new fan today, the one I wanted wasn't in stock at the time (I'm thinking of a Cooler Master V8? My selection is effectively limited to what's in stock at Canada Computers and in stock at the North York location..for various reasons). But my issue is, from what I understand, I shouldn't be reaching the temperatures I do at load anyways. So I'm wondering if there is something wrong with one of the components?

I also still have that USB issue as well...
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Originally Posted by ootz0rz View Post
I was going to go out and buy a new fan today, the one I wanted wasn't in stock at the time (I'm thinking of a Cooler Master V8? My selection is effectively limited to what's in stock at Canada Computers and in stock at the North York location..for various reasons). But my issue is, from what I understand, I shouldn't be reaching the temperatures I do at load anyways. So I'm wondering if there is something wrong with one of the components?

I also still have that USB issue as well...
What is the temp in the room where your computer is?? Those temps are definitely too high, even for stock. You removed the stock thermal grease and replaced it with after market?
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What is the temp in the room where your computer is?? Those temps are definitely too high, even for stock. You removed the stock thermal grease and replaced it with after market?
Temperature's in my room is usually around 20-25C..its about 22 right now and I'm still at 48 idle.

I removed the stock wax and replaced it with some Shin-Etsu Micro SI paste.

Also, does anyone have a reading on what their (stock heatsink/fan) fan RPM is at on load on a similar/same CPU?
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You need a new cpu cooler! When you get one don't apply thermal paste like that unless it's base looks like that! HDT coolers use a different paste application method than regular coolers. Also, please fill in your system specs so we can easily get information without going back to your orginal specs.
    
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You need a new cpu cooler! When you get one don't apply thermal paste like that unless it's base looks like that! HDT coolers use a different paste application method than regular coolers. Also, please fill in your system specs so we can easily get information without going back to your orginal specs.
Hmm well I had left the original wax on to begin with, and only applied thermal paste recently thinking it might help. Made no difference at all though.

I was gonna go pick up a new cooler today but once again, out of stock...so I'll have to wait until tomorrow or Wednesday for that. When I do get it though, I shouldn't bother to apply new paste to it? (For a cooler master v8)

Once again though, my issue is...unless the stock heat sink/fan, cpu or motherboard is in some way defective, I should not be getting these temperatures with the sort of ambient room temperature I have? Isn't that correct? I don't really want to bother with over-clocking the CPU for now as I was thinking of getting a water-cooling solution for my system later on, so ideally I'd like to avoid purchasing a 3rd party air cooler if at all possible :/

*edit*
Also here's a screenshot of my system running prime95 + temperature read-outs. The thing that confuses me though is that the ASUS AI Suite shows acceptable temperature, but everything else does not? Although, from what I can tell, the temperature readouts from all the other software is in line with the BIOS.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8168/temp2.png
Edited by ootz0rz - 6/21/10 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by ootz0rz View Post
Hi, I just built a new rig on the asus p6x58d premium and a core i7 930 but seem to be having issues with CPU temperature.

Using the stock fan I get idle temp's hovering around 40C up to 50C at times. But what I'm concerned about more are my load temperatures. Using realtemp+prime95, I get temperatures in the high 90s (I've seen it go up to 99 once).

The odd thing is though, when I use the AI suite tool, it shows temperatures at about 10 degrees less. The bios, however, shows idle temperatures that line up with realtemp. I've also tried Speccy and CoreTemp - they both show temperatures that seem to align with the bios. A friend suggests that the board may have a temperature offset, which the AI suite (in windows) is properly calibrated for?

Even if that is the case, that means I'm still getting load temperatures hovering around 90C. This still seems high to me? My CPU fan seems to at anywhere from between 1500 up to about 2200 rpm. Are these numbers maybe low?

I've tried reseating the heatsink twice now, cleaning and then applying a fresh coat of thermal paste each time.

I'd be grateful for any help at this point... if I indeed to have a faulty component somewhere I'd like to get it sorted out as my direct replacement from the place I purchased runs out at the end of this week and I'd rather not have to deal with the OEMs myself :/ If you guys need any more information please do let me know, and thanks in advance!
Use RealTemp as your guide, don't look at AI Tool. When you apply the TIM/paste, make sure you do it in a "small pea size" in the center of the CPU. Go into BIOS and set the Q-Fan Control to "disabled" -- this allows the fans to no longer be controlled by the motherboard (aka Fan Xpert) and will now run at 100%, which is faster than "Turbo". Also, disable Hyper Threading for now. I also noticed you were using 22x multi, set that to 21x instead.

I would also look into getting a better CPU cooling solution if you plan to OC the chip. That said, you're right.. it is running really HOT for stock settings. Give those things a try that I mentioned above and then run another test and report back.
Edited by xmisery - 6/21/10 at 8:47pm
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