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I'd like to start my first post on these forums with a big thanks to all the contributors. This thread was the deciding factor for me getting the P6X58D motherboard for my new build. Simply great information & pics.

My new i7 930 PC is going well. First test OC was based on xmisery's 3.8 settings. I had to up the CPU voltage to 1.22v, but lowered the DRAM to 1.5v (I'm using G.Skill F3-12800CL7T-6GBP). Prime95 with HT on have temps at 59-62c. I'm using a Mega Shadow cooler which seems to do the trick. I'm loving this system so far!

One question;- With all BIOS settings at default values, the system does some form of dynamic overclocking, raising and lowering the volts and speeds based on load. Is this something we can tweak at all? Currently it goes up to 3.0Ghz under load, but I'd like to make that 3.4-3.6 given that it can easily do it on stock volts. I've read the mobo manual but sadly I'm not enough of an expert to make sense of many of the BIOS settings. Is there some downside to doing this?
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Just ordered my P6X58D-E from Tiger Direct... it was originally $239.99, but I got $20 off (because I just recently spent over $200 on a monitor not too long ago, and it's their 20 year anniversary), and I got free shipping. So, $219.99 for a X58D-E shipped. I'm excited to get it.

Now I gotta wait until my next paycheck to order my i7 930
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I'd like to start my first post on these forums with a big thanks to all the contributors. This thread was the deciding factor for me getting the P6X58D motherboard for my new build. Simply great information & pics.

My new i7 930 PC is going well. First test OC was based on xmisery's 3.8 settings. I had to up the CPU voltage to 1.22v, but lowered the DRAM to 1.5v (I'm using G.Skill F3-12800CL7T-6GBP). Prime95 with HT on have temps at 59-62c. I'm using a Mega Shadow cooler which seems to do the trick. I'm loving this system so far!

One question;- With all BIOS settings at default values, the system does some form of dynamic overclocking, raising and lowering the volts and speeds based on load. Is this something we can tweak at all? Currently it goes up to 3.0Ghz under load, but I'd like to make that 3.4-3.6 given that it can easily do it on stock volts. I've read the mobo manual but sadly I'm not enough of an expert to make sense of many of the BIOS settings. Is there some downside to doing this?
Welcome aboard.

With everthing at stock auto, Turbo should be kicking in giving you its joy. You can't really tweak that. AFAIK. But There are some settings that you can play with that will scale both multiplier & voltage according to load. The Offset Voltage setting seems to be something that not all boards have and there just isn't a ton of good info on. So I've taken what info I have found and have spent a few days trial & bluescreening it out. In simple terms it seems to make Speedstep and C1E work with Overclock settings without the usual stability problems asscociated with them. As well as enable voltage scaling which I thought should work with speedstep and C1E but doesn't without the Offset setting. Here are the setting I have come up with for 3.8 w/HT that is stable for me. Your results may vary and use at your own risk.
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Offset 3.8 w/HT

Ai Overclock Tuner.....................[Manual]

CPU Ratio Setting......................[21.0]

Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Enabled]

Xtreme Phase Full Power Mode...........[Enabled]

BCLK Frequency.........................[181]

PCIE Frequency.........................[100]

DRAM Frequency.........................[DDR3-1451MHz]

UCLK Frequency.........................[2903MHz]

QPI Link Data Rate.....................[Auto]

CPU Voltage Control....................[Offset]

CPU Voltage............................[.075]

CPU PLL Voltage........................[1.84]

QPI/DRAM Core Voltage..................[1.23125]

IOH Voltage............................[1.14]

IOH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]

ICH Voltage............................[1.20]

ICH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]

DRAM Bus Voltage.......................[1.64]

DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]

DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]

DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]

DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]

DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]

DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]

Load-Line Calibration..................[Disabled]

CPU Differential Amplitude.............[800mV]

CPU Clock Skew.........................[Delay 300ps]

CPU Spread Spectrum....................[Disabled]

IOH Clock Skew.........................[Auto]

PCIE Spread Spectrum...................[Disabled]

C1E Support............................[Enabled]

Hardware Prefetcher....................[Enabled]

Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch...........[Enabled]

Intel(r) Virtualization Tech...........[Disabled]

CPU TM Function........................[Enabled]

Execute Disable Bit....................[Enabled]

Intel(r) HT Technology.................[Enabled]

Active Processor Cores.................[All]

A20M...................................[Disabled]

Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Enabled]

Intel(r) C-STATE Tech..................[Disabled]
Adjusting the voltage with the offset voltage setting is a bit tricky. I wouldn't suggest moving the voltage anymore than a single minimum increment at a time. And don't forget that your voltage under 100% load will be higher than at idle.

If it is not stable for you just add a little CPU voltage (very little .00625). If that doesn't work then add a little QPI/Dram Core Voltage.

The other part of your question. You wanted 3.4 -3.6 at stock volts. Hmmm Its been awhile since I've seen stock volts. If that is what I wanted with the offset voltage. Here is what I'd do: Use above setting with these changes,

set BCLK Frequency to 166-167,

Dram frequency will change so select the X8 option.

UCLK Frequency to x2 Dram frequency

Go back into bios and slowly lower cpu voltage one step (.00625) at a time until it fails checking stability after each step with IBT. Then after you reach the point at which it fails raise it back up 2 steps (.0125). At this point I'd try lowering the QPI/DRAM Core Voltage using the same method as previously used with CPU Voltage. Then run Prime 95.

I'm thinking you should end up at or under stock volts at that point. If your over and not happy then lower BCLK some more then lower your voltage again. At some point your DRAM Frequency will start looking awfull low and it might be better to up it to the x10 selection and adjust UCLK Frequency accordingly. Though it is rumored that x10 is less stable than x8 so that might call for a raise in the QPI/Dram Core Voltage.

Good Luck & Have Fun
Edited by ~sizzzle~ - 7/16/10 at 11:25am
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Also I need to add that if anybody has solid info on the Offset voltage setting please post.

My initial reaction to it was thinking that it was just setting how many volts over what it would set in auto. After playing around it was clear that wasn't the case. 2nd guess I thought maybe it was setting volts over stock, again doesn't seem to be the case. 3rd guess maybe it is setting volts to scale by between multipliers, again doesn't add up. So any help here is appreciated.

Why it scales better in offset over manual, I don't know. I just know that on my machine at least that it does.

I'll keep trying to find more info on it and in the mean time I'll be enjoying my lower temps.
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Also I need to add that if anybody has solid info on the Offset voltage setting please post.

My initial reaction to it was thinking that it was just setting how many volts over what it would set in auto. After playing around it was clear that wasn't the case. 2nd guess I thought maybe it was setting volts over stock, again doesn't seem to be the case. 3rd guess maybe it is setting volts to scale by between multipliers, again doesn't add up. So any help here is appreciated.

Why it scales better in offset over manual, I don't know. I just know that on my machine at least that it does.

I'll keep trying to find more info on it and in the mean time I'll be enjoying my lower temps.
I use offset since BlackDragon24 recommended (like 150 posts earlier and got always better results than manual - low volts for high OC and voltage drop when cpu clocks down.

It's basically the stock voltage (~1.25v) + offset value.

Bear in mind volts in CPU-z or other software will always show slightly different values than set in BIOS.

I'm also good friend with LLC - some don't like it, but in current incarnation it is a good tech as it keeps voltage ripple to the minimum - and I better like to have constant voltage rather than spikes by vdroop.
    
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Just to add to what luke997 just mentioned.. some of the discussion regarding the offset parameter in this thread can be found here. It's definitely worth reading and I would like to eventually update my templates to add the settings using the offset as another option for everyone. I just haven't had any time to do testing with it. If anyone else finds interest in this and wants to test various OC settings using this method, I'd be happy to add an updated template to mine and credit you.
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I use offset since BlackDragon24 recommended (like 150 posts earlier and got always better results than manual - low volts for high OC and voltage drop when cpu clocks down.

It's basically the stock voltage (~1.25v) + offset value.

Bear in mind volts in CPU-z or other software will always show slightly different values than set in BIOS.

I'm also good friend with LLC - some don't like it, but in current incarnation it is a good tech as it keeps voltage ripple to the minimum - and I better like to have constant voltage rather than spikes by vdroop.
Yup I still run it to this day . By far one of the coolest features of this motherboard. I have run it successfully up to 4.4ghz and 1.375v load voltage. I would imagine at some point the fluctuating voltages might decrease stability but I haven't found that point, at least not on air.
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I would like to thank you xmisery I tried out your template and it is flawless. I copied this template. I have the Extreme version of this motherboard are the settings the same as the premium. + for your rep and thanks for the input.

Ai Overclock Tuner.....................[Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting......................[21.0]
Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Disabled]
Xtreme Phase Full Power Mode...........[Enabled]
BCLK Frequency.........................[191]
PCIE Frequency.........................[100]
DRAM Frequency.........................[DDR3-1531MHz]
UCLK Frequency.........................[3063MHz]
QPI Link Data Rate.....................[Auto]

CPU Voltage Control....................[Manual]
CPU Voltage............................[1.26250]
CPU PLL Voltage........................[1.80]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage..................[1.21875]
IOH Voltage............................[1.14]
IOH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]
ICH Voltage............................[1.20]
ICH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]
DRAM Bus Voltage.......................[1.64]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]

Load-Line Calibration..................[Enabled]
CPU Differential Amplitude.............[800mV]
CPU Clock Skew.........................[Delay 300ps]
CPU Spread Spectrum....................[Disabled]
IOH Clock Skew.........................[Auto]
PCIE Spread Spectrum...................[Disabled]

C1E Support............................[Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher....................[Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch...........[Enabled]
Intel(r) Virtualization Tech...........[Disabled]
CPU TM Function........................[Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit....................[Enabled]
Intel(r) HT Technology.................[Enabled]
Active Processor Cores.................[All]
A20M...................................[Disabled]
Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Disabled]
Intel(r) C-STATE Tech..................[Disabled]
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Hey BlackDragon would you mind please posting your 4.2 GhZ settings that you use for 24/7 usage. I also have the C7's but am having trouble getting 4.2 stable.
4.0 is completely stable but can't run the ram at 1600 for some reason. It's not even selectable in bios. Your help is very much appreciated.
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It's basically the stock voltage (~1.25v) + offset value.
Well, that was my 2nd guess. I was very much in doubt until reading the post that xmisery linked. I remember saying to myself; "there is no way I'm getting a .08xx vdroop." Well I guess I'm not the only one. I'll have to double check now but I could have sworn my vdroop at similar manual settings was closer to .04. I'll take it though, I don't mind vdroop.

On a cool side note. When looking for info on offset voltage this thread kept popping up near the top of the search.
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