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My settings are similar except I use 199 BCLK, UCLK auto, CPU PLL Voltage 2.0, auto for QPI, IOH and ICH. 1.65 for DRAM bus voltage. Auto for amplitude,skew.
    
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Welcome back Dave.

4.2 can be a hard nut to crack. Since it looks like you are pretty new at this I'd suggest cutting your teeth on 3.8 to start with. xmisery has some nice 3.8 settings with 181 X 21 or you could adjust that to 166 X 23 in order take advantage of the 23 multi. 3.8 has just been a sweet spot for alot of us. It will get you a respectable overclock fairly easily and give you a chance to get to know your system a bit. Then you can take what you learn there and go up with it.

Generally xmisery's settings can be a little low on both the CPU Voltage and the QPI Dram Core Voltage for some of us. For 3.8 I'd start somewhere around 1.25 vcore/1.25 QPI Dram Core.

Or you can just keep shooting for 4.2. Your system I'm just making a suggestion. You will probably have to walk up the QPI Dram Core Voltage as well as the CPU Voltage to get it stable.
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Hi guys,

Unfortunately I am at work at the moment, so away from the rig. Just wanted to say thanks for all the helpful posts and I'll start shooting for a lower OC initially.

I have OC'd before, but not in a very systematic manner. This system is a dedicated Photoshop/Lightroom build so lots of pull on RAM and both apps like lots of CPU speed, take full advantage of all cores and HT etc...

I am not sure what OC I can get it to on air cooling but I'd like a stable OC in the 4.0 - 4.2 range if that's at all possible.

One side note is to say I was very impressed with the HAF-932 case.....awesome fans and I really liked how it allowed for cables to be tied off behind a back panel, under the mobo. So basically you've got virtually no cables over the mobo and gobs of cool air sweeping over.....probably nothing new to you OC gurus but I've been using the same ATX tower case over and over on different builds and this was a revelation.

Thx again and I'll let you know my progress,

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Good luck Dave,

Shoot for 3.8-4.0 with as low voltage as possible, for what you're doing it'll be perfect, and once you have it stable, it should run 24/7 with some nice temps.

Be sure to run Prime95 for at least 24-36 hours to make sure it's completely stable.

Here's what you can compare it to:




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Back home on my lunch break ...did I say I was keen to get this done?

So I've left all my original settings from xmisery the same (meaning cpu voltage has remained at 1.35 V and QPI DRAM Core voltage is 1.335 V) and just gone to a 23 multiplier and 175 for the FSB (giving me a 4.0 GHz overclock) and am now 10 minutes into Prime95 testing.

So far so good....Everest says CPU is 58 degrees and the core temps are running about 70-75 degrees.

What sort of temps (cpu and the cores) should I be considering as unsafe?

Tx,

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Those are good temps! As you can see, they're pretty close to mine @ 4.0

Now, if you want to stick with 4.0, leave prime running for at least 24-36 hours, if it passes all the time, you can pretty much bank on it being stable 24/7.

3.8 will run even cooler than that as you can see from my screenshot, and for Photoshop you won't see a big difference between 3.8 & 4.0 but better temps on full load, along with lower voltage.

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I decided to check 4.2 it's running with 1.336v, and I'm stress testing right now.

Here's what I got so far, and I'm wondering if I should be more concerned with the Cores temp, or the CPU temp from AI Suite, temps seem pretty good to me.



Peak temps so far

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Those are some very nice low voltage overclocks 2010. Just so that you know you are running 4.2 at near the same voltage it takes me to get 4.0 stable. Your temps are high though. I always try to keep Core temps under 80C.

@ Dave, As your overclocking and comparing your settings with others keep in mind your 12GB of RAM. You will have to run a little more QPI Dram Core Voltage than if you had 6GB from what I've seen.

When stability testing I take the progressive approach will do some quick runs of IBT (Intel Burn Test) before running Prime 95. While tuning in the overclock I'll run 5 runs of standard IBT to get me close, then 20 runs on very high. Shooting for the least amount of voltage (both vcore and QPI Dram Core) needed to pass. Standard doesn't use much memory so it will be mostly tuning in the vcore. Very high uses alot more memory so tuning in that QPI Dram Core voltage will come alot more into play with it. With your 12 GB of RAM check to see the difference between memory usage between very high and max. You might be better off using MAX if very high isn't using very much of your memory. Set the number of threads manually instead of leaving it in auto also. Anyway using IBT is good for some quick testing to get you close. If I can pass 20 runs of IBT very high I can usually pass 12+ hours of Prime 95 small fft and get very close to passing 12+ hours of Prime 95 Blend which I run both after getting close with IBT. Small fft uses very little memory and will be mostly about adjusting vcore and blend uses alot of memory and adjustments in QPI Dram Core will come into play.
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Anybody try updating BIOS to latest 10.1.0.1008 option rom with those modded BIOS?
    
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Those are some very nice low voltage overclocks 2010. Just so that you know you are running 4.2 at near the same voltage it takes me to get 4.0 stable. Your temps are high though. I always try to keep Core temps under 80C.
Thanks Sizzle,

I think I posted earlier with the power savings enabled, and my voltages were much lower for 3.8, and I had to play around with it for 4.0 stable but I never got around to it.

I agree, my temps are on the high side, which is why I don't run this overclock, I normally run 3.8 - 4.0 every day depending on what I'm doing. It sucks because 4.2 is the only OC I can get to run my ram at 1600 MHZ.

Any ideas on how I can lower my temps for 4.2 OC? Being below 80 on the cores would be ideal. Otherwise I'm happy with 3.8 - 4.0. I thought about maybe reapplying the thermal paste.

I have found that nearly no other programs stress the CPU like Prime does though.
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2010,

What are your ambient temps like ? Looking back at your 3.8 with the power savings stuff on here. Once again your voltage is great but your temps are close to what I run @ 1.24v in the summer. It's weird because with the NH-D14 you should be getting better temps than my Dark Knight at the same voltage. I've made quite a fan upgrade with the San Ace but even still I'd expect a little better temps for you.

As far as tips for better temps. Probably the biggest tip I can give you is to feed that CPU cooler plenty of fresh air. Changing out the Noctua fans for something with higher static pressure and a few more CFM could help also. Although if I remember right the stock fans are supposed to be pretty good. I took the old stock fan off my DK and zip tied it into the 5 1/4 drive bay area and doing that made just about as big of a temp difference as changing out the stock fan for the San Ace. Combined my temp difference was huge as far as CPU temps go.

Reapplying thermal paste can make a couple degrees difference if not applied great to start with. Changing from a "free with cooler" sort of past to something like Shin Etsu G751 (http://www.svc.com/g-751.html) can drop another degree or two off. That may not seem like much but everything on these computers is a little here and a little there. Especially temps.

Also I'd search threw ehume's posts for getting the most out of that D14 (http://www.overclock.net/member.php?u=112271) Although I see he is now playing around with a Mugen 2 he was running a NH-D14 for quite awhile. ehume is just flat out the fan guru but also posted alot of stuff helping out other people squeeze a little lower temps out of their D14.
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