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Well that kinda worked out. It's already passed where it used to fail and my max temp seems to be 74.

Eating my words failed at 7 mins this time.... upping it one more time as per your previous post currently at 1.20 for the voltage.

Whats a safe max temp for max cpu usage in a test like this for a 930? comfortable i mean.....


failed at 7 min 16 seconds at voltage 1.20 not sure what to do at this point, i set the voltage back to 1.1875 just because i figure no need to add voltage if it's not changing stability.
Edited by micro23 - 12/28/10 at 4:29pm
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Sizzle, try this: Search This Thread>Enter "EK waterblocks">click "GO". I got this result: http://www.overclock.net/search.php?searchid=6987093
The 2nd-5th posts should be what you wanted.
I also have trouble keeping up with certain posts in this huge thread. The Search This Thread option has been more than a little helpful. This thread's so long it's damned near impossible to keep up with it!
Is your mobo so hot that you think it actually needs watercooling? If so, I think I'd better try to find my laser thermometer and check my own board.
I searched the EK configurator: http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/s..._example_table, and they do have full mobo w/c kits for the P6X58D-Premium and the P6X58D-E. From about 60 to 70 Euro's ($78 to $98 USD).
Thank You kzinti1 +. LOL I've never used the thread search before. I forgot it was even there.

At the moment I'm not worried about temps. However I'm having thoughts of trying to get 4.5+GHz stable. To do this would definately take Water for the CPU, so IF I do it I might as well put the board on water also for a little extra pampering.

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Well that kinda worked out. It's already passed where it used to fail and my max temp seems to be 74.

Eating my words failed at 7 mins this time.... upping it one more time as per your previous post currently at 1.20 for the voltage.

Whats a safe max temp for max cpu usage in a test like this for a 930? comfortable i mean.....


failed at 7 min 16 seconds at voltage 1.20 not sure what to do at this point, i set the voltage back to 1.1875 just because i figure no need to add voltage if it's not changing stability.
Keep cores under 80C while testing. Not exactly comfortable but after testing regular use temps will be much lower.

Might have to up the QPI DRAM CoreVoltage as well as CPU Voltage. I run 3.8 with 1.248v vcore under load in CPU-Z (~1.31875 in BIOS, LLC disabled) and QPI Dram Core Voltage at 1.24375v in BIOS. FYI.
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Thank You kzinti1 +. LOL I've never used the thread search before. I forgot it was even there.

At the moment I'm not worried about temps. However I'm having thoughts of trying to get 4.5+GHz stable. To do this would definately take Water for the CPU, so IF I do it I might as well put the board on water also for a little extra pampering.
Good luck! Which WC kit are you thinking of going with?

I've thought about Water Cooling as well, but for my needs my current OC is more than plenty, and I might as well wait it out for Ivy Bridge.

I was reading this thread the other day, there's a lot of info in there:
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...l#post11787692

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Keep cores under 80C while testing. Not exactly comfortable but after testing regular use temps will be much lower.

Might have to up the QPI DRAM CoreVoltage as well as CPU Voltage. I run 3.8 with 1.248v vcore under load in CPU-Z (~1.31875 in BIOS, LLC disabled) and QPI Dram Core Voltage at 1.24375v in BIOS. FYI.
Exactly, every chip is different, and you just have to tweak and test until you find the sweet spot for your chip. You already know that 3.8 booted and worked, so now, keep tweaking the settings slightly until you get it 100% stable, it's better for the long run.

Definitely the next step is to add a bit more QPI Dram, you're very close.

You should fill out the rest of your rig, so we have a better idea of what you're working with.
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Good luck! Which WC kit are you thinking of going with? Or are you going to switch the H70 onto your i7?
That's an A70 on the i5 not H70. Everyone gets confused by that thing.



If I do it I'll probably start out with the XSPC RX240 kit. http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Rasa-75...t-pr-4779.html or just make a similar custom loop.
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That's an A70 on the i5 not H70. Everyone gets confused by that thing.

If I do it I'll probably start out with the XSPC RX240 kit. http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-Rasa-75...t-pr-4779.html or just make a similar custom loop.
ha ha - I know, I noticed it afterwards - check out my Ninja edit above.
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Greetings all. I've been following this thread since I purchased and built this system nearly one year ago. I don't have a lot of building experience, but know enough to have built several systems over the years for myself, friends, and family.

My current system was a breeze to assemble. No issues were encountered and I began overclocking several weeks later. I have used xmisery's settings for 4.2GHz with hyperthreading both on and off. Also tried the offset settings. I have been able to obtain stability in both LinX and Prime95 with several bumps in CPU voltage and QPI from xmisery's setting.

The issue I have encountered is this. Even though the system tests as stable, I continue to have occasional, random, cold boot problems (maybe once a month) where the system will not get to BIOS with the DRAM_LED on all fans spinning up. The system will then boot if I hit reset. I've reinstalled the memory, video card, etc. but to no avail. In addition, I've tried numerous voltage combinations but even this doesn't seem to work when it comes to cold boot. This is the only issue I've had with this system and would appreciate any comments or suggestions.
#1. Do you have the latest official BIOS (0405)? If not, update it to that version.

#2. Have you tried setting ALL of the RAM timings and voltages manually? The one specific setting that MIGHT fix it is setting the last setting in the first group from AUTO to 4. In the current official BIOS and all previous official BIOSes, it defaults to 0. The next official BIOS release should fix the cold boot issue with the 0 default setting.
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Add me to the list

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Hey guys,

I got another tweaking update to share, and I will pretty much copy and paste what I wrote on a previous thread, but I will post the settings here.

Here's the thread that led me to this today:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...st-stable.html

Alright, so I wanted to test this HT ON vs HT OFF theory to see how it played out.

But first a little background:

For the past 6 months I've been running 3.8 or 4.0 STABLE Overclocks with HT ON depending on what I'm doing. Most often than not, 3.8 is my usual 24/7 OC when I'm not editing, encoding, gaming, etc. Since it gave me the best temps.

I run 4.0 when gaming and working. So I know what an OC with Hyper Threading is like performance wise, and what it "feels" like.

Now, on to the test.

First, I tweaked, and tested my 4.2 OC with HT on, and after a couple tries I got it to run Linx without errors, though I didn't do the full 20 runs, I just wanted it to run, so I'd know how many Gflops I would get, and took a screenshot.

I just wanted to get a base for comparison purposes to see what would happen vs HT off.
(On the previous page I showed the full 20 runs @ 4.1 from a couple days ago.)



Now, I went into the BIOS, tweaked settings for 4.2 with HT OFF, and on my first try without further tweaking and testing, I got this! ( I will of course test and tweak this some more, just don't have time right now )



Now, browsing the web is a lot spiffier, the computer feels way more stable, compared to how it "felt" with HT ON, and look at those temps!

Throughout the test I did up the voltage once, and went down once from the sweet spot that the entire test ran with. When I upped it, the highest core temp went to 73 for 1 run, but for the entire test it hovered between 70 & 72.

To say that I am impressed is an under-statement, and I will do more testing in video editing, rendering, etc, but as of right now, it's going to be very hard to convince me to go back to HT ON!

Why?

Lower temps, spiffier computer, higher overclock, etc, etc, I've been running with HT ON for 6 months to compare it to.

For those who need to see validation:
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1562236

And... for the settings in case you want to try it out.

Code:
Ai Overclock Tuner.....................[Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting......................[21.0]
Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Disabled]
Xtreme Phase Full Power Mode...........[Enabled]
BCLK Frequency.........................[200]
PCIE Frequency.........................[100]
DRAM Frequency.........................[DDR3-1603MHz]
UCLK Frequency.........................[3208MHz]
QPI Link Data Rate.....................[Auto]

CPU Voltage Control....................[Manual]
CPU Voltage............................[1.27500]
CPU PLL Voltage........................[1.80]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage..................[1.22500]
IOH Voltage............................[1.14]
IOH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]
ICH Voltage............................[1.20]
ICH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]
DRAM Bus Voltage.......................[1.64]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]

Load-Line Calibration..................[Enabled]
CPU Differential Amplitude.............[800mV]
CPU Clock Skew.........................[Delay 300ps]
CPU Spread Spectrum....................[Disabled]
IOH Clock Skew.........................[Auto]
PCIE Spread Spectrum...................[Disabled]

C1E Support............................[Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher....................[Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch...........[Enabled]
Intel(r) Virtualization Tech...........[Disabled]
CPU TM Function........................[Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit....................[Enabled]
Intel(r) HT Technology.................[Disabled]
Active Processor Cores.................[All]
A20M...................................[Disabled]
Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Disabled]
Intel(r) C-STATE Tech..................[Disabled]
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#1. Do you have the latest official BIOS (0405)? If not, update it to that version.

#2. Have you tried setting ALL of the RAM timings and voltages manually? The one specific setting that MIGHT fix it is setting the last setting in the first group from AUTO to 4. In the current official BIOS and all previous official BIOSes, it defaults to 0. The next official BIOS release should fix the cold boot issue with the 0 default setting.
Thanks for the response.

I have the Premium board with the latest BIOS (1201) installed.

I will set that last setting in the first group to 4. I did noticed in the "AUTO" mode it's set to 0. I'll give that a shot. It would appear that most agree that this is a memory issue. Thanks again for your help!
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hi professionals

my gaming rig is:

ASUS P6X58D PREMIUM

INTEL CORE I7-950 with CORSAIR H70 PUSH AND PULL with scythe slipestream x2 1900 rpm

MUSHKIN Silverline Stiletto 998947 3x2gb 1600 mhz 7-10-10-24

ATI 5850


and now: i get my system stable at 4,2 ghz at this setings:


multi 21
bclk 200
qpi 1,35
1600mhz dram frequency
unclk 3200
qpi link data rate auto

cpu voltage 1,35
dram bus 1,65v
cpu pll 1,90v
ich voltage auto
ich pcie voltage auto
ioh voltage auto
ioh pcie voltage auto

LLC enabled
cpu clock skew auto
ioh clock skew auto
cpu spread spectrum disabled
pcie spread spectrum disabled
c1e disabled
hardware prefetcher enabled
adjustable cash line prefetch enabled
intel virtualization tech disabled
cpu tm function disabled
execute disable bit enabled
intel HT technology disabled
active cores all
a20m disabled
intel speedstep tech disabled
intel turbo mode disabled

under these settings i get the following result


http://img152.imageshack.us/i/final4...0mhz68624.jpg/

under 79 C in linx...

i am satisfied with these settings and clock for 24/7 use but i am wondering if it could go up more?

i tried 200x22 or 21 x 205 or 21x 210, and with every of these combinations, my system isnt stable.. I tried to set vcoe around 1,4-1.45 v.... again no stable..

is it posible that i am runing stable 4,2 ghz with 1,35 v and for only 200 mhz more, i need so high vcore????

is there any advise to change some of these setings from my bios written above?

any advice would be helpfull thanks!
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