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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robilar View Post
I was skimming through this thread and thought it was worth pointing out:

(I've double posted this temporarily as I feel its important for prospective buyers with multiple graphic card configs to be aware of this).


"Intel's X58-Express chipset receives 32 total PCI-Express link lanes, but when you consider that the SATA6G and SuperSpeed USB 3.0 take up to six PCI-E lanes there's only one place to borrow them from: graphics. With the Marvell and NEC controllers enabled in a single card configuration there are still sixteen link-lanes remaining for PCI-Express graphics bandwidth, which is more than enough, but a dual-card set would be reduced to 16+8 since these controllers require the remainder"

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=450&Itemid=69

From the Benchmark Reviews article


I was considering picking up this board until I read that. No full 16x16x lanes for Crossfire or SLI (tri-fire or tri-sli fares even worse) unless you disable the SATA6G and SuperSpeed USB 3.0 controllers (essentially the two main reasons to get this board over the prior generation X58 boards).

I have to say, not impressed. Could Asus not have added something similar to an NF200 chipset to provide more lanes for full graphics bandwidth?


For single GPU users, this is moot though.
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There isn't a single game available today (well maybe crysis) that you would notice a difference in. Maybe in a benchmark, but even then, doubtful. If you are looking to set graphics benchmarks records you aren't buying this board anyways. NF200 chips get hot and often lower performance.

I knew going in the SATA 3.0 was a gimmick (maybe it'll work well with SSD's designed to run off of it), but the USB 3.0 will be well worth it when the slew of USB external drives and flash drives that utilize it hit the market.

I'll be curious to see the specs for the RAMPAGE III coming out.
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You can set the PCIe lanes in bios to x16/x16/x1 or x16/x8/x8. The board is likely using the remaining IOH PCIe lanes (3 or 4) for USB3 & SATA6, which translates to 1.5-2GB/s bandwidth. This is no different than the add-on PCIe cards with USB3 and SATA6, except it doesn't take up a slot. While it's obviously insufficient to support multiple USB3 or SATA6devices at their maximum potential speed...

Consider the existing situation with the ICH10R: six SATA3 ports, 12 USB2 ports, gigabit LAN connect, and six PCIe lanes all have to share the DMI bus of 2 GB/s! Personally I don't see Intel offering native USB3 & SATA6 support with an "X68" or "ICH11R" since it would be a major redesign -- adding lots of IOH PCIe lanes and/or vastly increasing the DMI bandwidth. And for what ? Maybe some USB3 devices will catch on this year, like external hard drives or SSDs, but there is no use for SATA6 in the near future. Our boards have two ports, even two SSDs in RAID are fine over SATA3, and TRIM doesn't even function in RAID. Significantly faster SSDs won't be here until next year... coinciding with Sandy Bridge.

It's nice that the P6X58D has USB3 and SATA6, but we'll probably all have new boards before these are going to be utilized. Still it's nice to have them, and even without them it is an awesome board.
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When is "ICH11R" coming anyway?
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ok, so I have come to the conclusion that i either have a bad RAM, CPU, or MOBO. my problem, too keep from going over it all again, is here http://www.overclock.net/intel-gener...us-p6x58d.html. I can't get my new system to boot to windows if I change any overclocking settings in the mobo. I tried timings of 9-9-9-24, as per memory specs. machine flashes windows 7 loading screen and then reboots. I've tried everything i can think of. windows works fine if I factory reset the mobo and let it boot. i've tried all of xmiserys configs in conjuction with different timings setting for the RAM, and nothing works. tried "xmp" profile and same thing. I've hit a brick wall after spending $1400. I made sure my i7 920 is DO stepping, per label - SLBEJ, not SLBEH. At this point I'm thinking it's the memory. does anyone have any suggestions, or be willing to assist. would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you raised your RAM voltage to 1.66V? Also, have you tried with just a single stick of RAM in the second slot (from left to right)?
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Have you raised your RAM voltage to 1.66V? Also, have you tried with just a single stick of RAM in the second slot (from left to right)?
yes, and yes.
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Here's some pics of my new build.




Some OC results to follow.


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Looks like some decent specs...now for some cable management
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robilar View Post
I was skimming through this thread and thought it was worth pointing out:

(I've double posted this temporarily as I feel its important for prospective buyers with multiple graphic card configs to be aware of this).


"Intel's X58-Express chipset receives 32 total PCI-Express link lanes, but when you consider that the SATA6G and SuperSpeed USB 3.0 take up to six PCI-E lanes there's only one place to borrow them from: graphics. With the Marvell and NEC controllers enabled in a single card configuration there are still sixteen link-lanes remaining for PCI-Express graphics bandwidth, which is more than enough, but a dual-card set would be reduced to 16+8 since these controllers require the remainder"

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=450&Itemid=69

From the Benchmark Reviews article


I was considering picking up this board until I read that. No full 16x16x lanes for Crossfire or SLI (tri-fire or tri-sli fares even worse) unless you disable the SATA6G and SuperSpeed USB 3.0 controllers (essentially the two main reasons to get this board over the prior generation X58 boards).

I have to say, not impressed. Could Asus not have added something similar to an NF200 chipset to provide more lanes for full graphics bandwidth?


For single GPU users, this is moot though.
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Now thats crap.

So it means if you are running or have SATA 3.0 and USB 3.0 enabled only one pcie runs on 16x?
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Here's some pics of my new build.




Some OC results to follow.
Very nice! If you get time though, see if you can re-route your cables to run behind the motherboard, for a more cleaner look and possibly better airflow.
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