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Ran Prime95 all night on the following settings. If I can figure out LinX I'll try it with that too, but thats another chapter for another day.

Running a Corsair H-50 and wonderful cross flow of air in the case, temps sit right around 70 - 73ish (I really should post pics of CPU-Z and CoreTemp.)


Ai Overclock Tuner.....................[Manual]
CPU Ratio Setting......................[21.0]
Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Disabled]
Xtreme Phase Full Power Mode...........[Enabled]
BCLK Frequency.........................[200]
PCIE Frequency.........................[100]
DRAM Frequency.........................[DDR3-1603MHz]
UCLK Frequency.........................[3208MHz]
QPI Link Data Rate.....................[Auto]

CPU Voltage Control....................[Manual]
CPU Voltage............................[1.30000]
CPU PLL Voltage........................[1.80]
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage..................[1.24375]
IOH Voltage............................[1.14]
IOH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]
ICH Voltage............................[1.20]
ICH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]
DRAM Bus Voltage.......................[1.64]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto]
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto]

Load-Line Calibration..................[Enabled]
CPU Differential Amplitude.............[800mV]
CPU Clock Skew.........................[Delay 300ps]
CPU Spread Spectrum....................[Disabled]
IOH Clock Skew.........................[Auto]
PCIE Spread Spectrum...................[Disabled]

C1E Support............................[Disabled]
Hardware Prefetcher....................[Enabled]
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch...........[Enabled]
Intel(r) Virtualization Tech...........[Disabled]
CPU TM Function........................[Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit....................[Enabled]
Intel(r) HT Technology.................[Disabled]
Active Processor Cores.................[All]
A20M...................................[Disabled]
Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Disabled]
Intel(r) C-STATE Tech..................[Disabled]

In DRAM every thing is on AUTO except for the stuff listed below. The BIOS was bumping timings to 9-9-9-24, and I just couldnt get stable with that, which turned out to be the root of all the issues I was having before. Cleaning the system and running repair certainly didnt hurt any thing though.

CAS# Latency...........[8]
CAS# Delay..............[8]
RAS# Pre Time..........[8]
Ras# Act Time..........[24]
REF Cycle Time.........[88]

DRAM timing mode is currently at 1N... would changing this to 2N make any difference? help or hinder?

I would like critique on this set up if possible. I tired bumping CPU Volts down a notch to see if I could get cooler temps but it didnt work out, this sees to be the sweet spot for this clock.
Edited by Mr.Mike - 1/9/11 at 3:35pm
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These are my settings for 3.8 which have been slightly adjusted from when I originally posted them back in July.

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Offset 3.8 w/HT
Ai Overclock Tuner.....................[Manual] 
CPU Ratio Setting......................[21.0] 
Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Enabled]
Xtreme Phase Full Power Mode...........[Enabled]
BCLK Frequency.........................[181]
PCIE Frequency.........................[100] 
DRAM Frequency.........................[DDR3-1451MHz] 
UCLK Frequency.........................[2903MHz] 
QPI Link Data Rate.....................[Auto] 
CPU Voltage Control....................[Offset]
CPU Voltage............................[.075] 
CPU PLL Voltage........................[1.80] 
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage..................[1.24375] 
IOH Voltage............................[1.12] 
IOH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50]
ICH Voltage............................[1.20] 
ICH PCIE Voltage.......................[1.50] 
DRAM Bus Voltage.......................[1.64] 
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto] 
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHA...........[Auto] 
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto] 
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHB...........[Auto] 
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto] 
DRAM CTRL REF Voltage on CHC...........[Auto] 
Load-Line Calibration..................[Disabled] 
CPU Differential Amplitude.............[800mV] 
CPU Clock Skew.........................[Delay 300ps] 
CPU Spread Spectrum....................[Disabled] 
IOH Clock Skew.........................[Auto] 
PCIE Spread Spectrum...................[Disabled] 
C1E Support............................[Enabled] 
Hardware Prefetcher....................[Enabled] 
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch...........[Enabled] 
Intel(r) Virtualization Tech...........[Disabled] 
CPU TM Function........................[Enabled] 
Execute Disable Bit....................[Enabled] 
Intel(r) HT Technology.................[Enabled] 
Active Processor Cores.................[All] 
A20M...................................[Disabled] 
Intel(r) SpeedStep(tm) Tech............[Enabled] 
Intel(r) C-STATE Tech..................[Disabled]
The tricky part is that to enable voltage scaling along with multiplier scaling you have to use Offset voltage control. This adds voltage to a set vcore, 1.25v for me. So I'm adding .075v to 1.25v then letting vdroop get me back down to ~1.24v under load.

Along with Offset voltage enable speedstep & C1E to turn on the power savings modes. C-State tech should also enable further power savings though I haven't tested it and am not using it.

If your 4.0 overclock above is stable you should be able to easily adjust my 3.8 settings to work for you at 4.0. Since you are getting 4.0 at slightly less voltage than I get for 3.8
Hi ~Sizzle~, it's been a few months.

I've been sailing along with a rock steady 3.8Ghz o/c, with bios set CPU voltage 1.20v (CPUz reports 1.184v) and bios set QPI at 1.22500.

I just saw your post and took a look at your settings and thought I would give C1E, Speedstep etc a try. All voltages I'm quoting from now on are from CPUz).

In order to get CPU voltage near 1.184v under load (x21 3800Ghz), I have set offset to 0.00625v, the lowest it will go.

When the system is not at load (x12 2168Mhz) my CPU voltage is 0.952v. The system seems stable at 0.952v and I guess under load it will be ok as CPUz is reporting CPU voltage as 1.192v.

So C1E, Speedstep etc saves me voltage most of the time and just have to accept v1.192v vs 1.184v under load. The questions I have are:

Why are you suggesting an offset of .075v? I am lucky in needing less voltage under load or is this more to do with ensuring the x12 2168Ghz voltage goes not drop too low?

Why do you suggest disabling Load-Line Calibration, when xmisery suggests enabling it?
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Just a quick answer here since I just walked in the door from a long weekend away and haven't unpacked yet.

I'm not so much suggesting .075v. I'm saying these are the setting that work for me. Especially with Vcore and also with QPI/Dram Core each CPU will vary. Some by quite a bit. In general though if the settings are stable for me they would make a decent starting point for someone else. Then you can dial it in a bit for your setup. Obviously you have a CPU that is capable of getting stable at a lower voltage than mine. That's a good thing. I consider my 930 pretty mediocre, far from golden and aways off from terrible.

As far as LLC goes... In those settings I have it disabled for primarily one reason. To achieve lower voltages then I would be a be able to with LLC enabled. Using the Offset voltage you have a set starting point and a min. adjustment. So I'm using vdroop to get a load voltage slightly below my starting point. LLC can be a bit of a hot topic and I'll just say I'm neither for nor against using it. Sometimes I use it and sometimes I don't, I sort of take it case by case depending on the overclock I'm working on.
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Hi Guys

Just wondering something about my 'E' version of the board, and UDMA modes. Just realised my HDD supports UDMA mode 7, but its running in mode 5. Looking at the bios, it only seems to go upto 5 anyway. Just wondering if there were any bios updates, or any other way to get this drive running in its supported mode 7?. I know the difference is probably going to be negligible, but every little helps .

The drive is a Samsung F1 750gig, and connected to a sata 2 port.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ~sizzzle~ View Post
Just a quick answer here since I just walked in the door from a long weekend away and haven't unpacked yet.

I'm not so much suggesting .075v. I'm saying these are the setting that work for me. Especially with Vcore and also with QPI/Dram Core each CPU will vary. Some by quite a bit. In general though if the settings are stable for me they would make a decent starting point for someone else. Then you can dial it in a bit for your setup. Obviously you have a CPU that is capable of getting stable at a lower voltage than mine. That's a good thing. I consider my 930 pretty mediocre, far from golden and aways off from terrible.

As far as LLC goes... In those settings I have it disabled for primarily one reason. To achieve lower voltages then I would be a be able to with LLC enabled. Using the Offset voltage you have a set starting point and a min. adjustment. So I'm using vdroop to get a load voltage slightly below my starting point. LLC can be a bit of a hot topic and I'll just say I'm neither for nor against using it. Sometimes I use it and sometimes I don't, I sort of take it case by case depending on the overclock I'm working on.
Many thanks, is there a bios setting for vdroop?

So with LLC disabled it will not compensate for vdroop which means when my CPU comes under load voltage may dip below what I expect for a few ms, is that right?

With LLC enabled it will try to compensate the for vdroop which may result in me getting spikes of higher voltage.

As I had LLC enabled before, it was compensating for vdroop and if I enable it with my new offset settings I should be getting similar voltage to what I had before.

So it comes down to lower voltage with LLC enabled (with possible higher than ideal spikes) or slighty higher voltages to compensate for vdroop for a few ms when the CPU comes under load?

With LLC disabled as the PC is not crashing at rest all I need to do is fully test under load and see how I get on.
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Many thanks, is there a bios setting for vdroop?
No, except for LLC.

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So with LLC disabled it will not compensate for vdroop which means when my CPU comes under load voltage may dip below what I expect for a few ms, is that right?
With LLC disabled the voltage will droop under load. It varies some between boards. For me my load voltage will be around .08v under what I have it set at in BIOS. It is pretty constant under load but as the load lessens the vcore will rise as the load increases the voltage drops to as much as .08v less than what it is set for in BIOS.

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With LLC enabled it will try to compensate the for vdroop which may result in me getting spikes of higher voltage.
The voltage spikes are a bit of a overblown scare IMO. With past architecture quick voltage spikes that happened so fast they were not measurable with CPU-Z, OCCT or the like were shown to cause big problems. The tests that show this were somewhat questionable if you wanted to nitpick and as of now are very old and don't so much pertain to today's technology IMO.


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As I had LLC enabled before, it was compensating for vdroop and if I enable it with my new offset settings I should be getting similar voltage to what I had before.
Best example here is just to run a few minutes of Prime 95 as is. Then enable it and repeat and you will see for yourself. If you enable it the load voltage will be higher.

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So it comes down to lower voltage with LLC enabled (with possible higher than ideal spikes) or slighty higher voltages to compensate for vdroop for a few ms when the CPU comes under load?
It will take your CPU the same amount of load voltage to be stable either way. With LLC enable you can put input lower numbers in BIOS but the stable load voltage remains the same. With LLC disabled you will have a higher idle voltage than with it enabled. This doesn't matter for this overclock because we are using the power savings features which cuts idle voltage. So our Highest voltage is our load voltage.
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Cheers ~sizzle~ as always thanks for you help. I'll post back with my settings when I finalise after testing for a few days.

One day hopefully I can help you

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Anybody play with the PCIe SSDs in their rig yet?

I'm looking at the OCZ Revo x2 240gb which runs in a PCIe x4. If I do it, it will be alongside 2 Sapphire Vapor-X 5870s in Crossfire with the PCIe lanes running at 16x-8x-8x. Along with a TV Tuner in the PCIe 1x slot.

With all of the talk about the 36 lanes and 6 being dedicated to USB 3 and SATA III I'm just wondering if anybody sees problems with this idea.

Obviously I'd shutoff the USB3 and SATA III using the PCIe SSD as the boot drive with 4 WD 1TB Caviar Blacks in a RAID 1+0.

My main two concerns are

#1 with the SSD already having an internal RAID controller built in is there going to be a problem configuring the HDDs in RAID

#2 Will there be enough PCIe lanes (my calculations are 16+8 for the Crossfire set up, 4 for the PCIe SSD, 1 for the TV Tuner, and 6 for the USB3 and SATA III totaling 35 or is it 34 because the 1x shouldn't be counted)
I have the RevoDrive 120GB in my system and it's been running for about 5 days now not one problem (SO FAR). I have read of problems with ASUS motherboards and the PCIe SSD's in that ASUS BIOS doesn't properly turn over power to the PCIe, etc. I have also read of some people having zero problems.

When I did my install I built a new Win7 x64 USB bootable image that has the OCZ drivers built in to it. I disconnected my SATA CD and SATA HDD. After install I reconnected everything. Solid so far.
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Have any of you tried one of these?
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Strange looking little drive.
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Completely I share your opinion. It seems to me it is very good idea. Completely with you I will agree.
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