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Thank you Blackdragon 24 (is that a reference to Blackmamba?). Anyways that was a thorough and extensive step-by-step; pretty much covers it all. I am thinking into replacing the Dominator kit with a Vengeance one from Corsair; the largest difference being this new kit has the 4X4X4 format of ram. Thus, this will hopefully ease the memory controller as it will free up 3 more banks on the motherboard. I still get the desired 12 gigs of ram and as someone replied to today, I can keep the 8-8-8-24 timings with the 1n command rate. All this with the desired 3.8 overclock. It feels like the ram controller is definitely the culprit here with all six sticks installed. Any takers for the 6 gig kit of Dominators?
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I will have to go into my BIOS when I get to my computer but I wrote a blog a while back and it got the attention of both Asus and Corsair. They both wrote me with ways to remedy my problem as they wanted to restore their good name. The Corsair rep told me that there is one specific setting that needs to be set to 11 to help with stability. I'll figure it out and let you know within the hour or so. It did help. I found it much easier to get stable once I set it. Hopefully it will help you as the rep said that it will help with Intel's weak IMC problem on all Corsair RAM and pretty much any other brands RAM too.

Edit: the setting is [tRTP] Which is DRAM Read To Pre Time. It needs to be set to 11. Try it out and see if it helps or not. It's not 100% guaranteed but its worth a shot you know. Good luck.

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Edited by lawrencendlw - 4/25/11 at 4:18pm
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Lawrencendlw, that sounds quite interesting indeed. I look forward to the details and what settings you are running. I didn't realize the IMC was that weak.. Especially in the 6 stick flavour. Though it does appear that in running a 3.8 clock with 12 gigs of ram on the 930, a 3 stick solution is the most stable method as opposed to my current 6 stick solution.
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I run a i7-930 @ 4.0-4.2 GHz and my RAM between 1600-1700 MHz. I took out 3 sticks to remedy it as I only really fold Anguiano's game so 12 GB's was overkill lol. Even so, I'm buying thee 12 GB (3x4 GB) kit of Corsair Dominator GT DDR3 2000 @ 9-10-9-24-1T next month. But for now I'm stuck. Since I know my chip has a weak IMC, I know that its not as powerful as it could be. Another question that arose a lot was if my psu is good and I tested it. It's not. You might want to give yourself some piece of mind attest yours too just in case. Good luck and let me know if I can help out anymore. I'll check my qpi/dram next time I get a chance.

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I think the Corsair 1200 watt psu in my system shouldn't be a problem. That RAM you are considering is quite beastly; fans and all. Why not get the Corsair Vengeance 12 gig 4x4x4 kit instead? It should be adequate. Also I have read that the line method of applying arctic silver 5 is not as good as the classic pea-sized drop dead in the center technique. Arctic silver's site recommends the line method but the general consensus says that the drop in the center wins in terms of lower temps. I am going to reapply the paste with the classic method. Anyways I look forward to knowing your settings with the qpi and dram.
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Is the Zalman 9900 LED 120mm cooler even a good enough cooler for a core i7. Realtemp shows 45 on idle with the fan on max. And this was after last night when I changed from the line method of applying arctic silver 5 to the classic pea-sized grain in the center. I know there is a break in time but my temps have never been as low as other 930 chips. I am thinking it is just not a good cooler for this cpu. I am thinking of getting one of those Noctua coolers. But it cannot be taller than my current Zalman because it will be touching my fan on the side of my door. It must fit. I really want to be able to hit 3.8 easy and 4.0 will just be luxury. My 45 at idle with this Zalman is pretty abysmal to say the least. Finally, which technique do you guys use in applying artic silver 5. The dot in the center, or the line method?
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I would highly recommend a Thermalright Venomous-x in a push/pull configuration.

I'd also recommend ditching arctic silver 5 (if that is what you are still using) and switch it out for something like Arctic Cooling MX-4 or the like....non-conductive, no curing time, etc...much better. Arctic Silver 5 is so 2005 . So many better and safer products on the market, and it'll only cost you $10.

Make sure to get a couple of good fans for the venomous x....on heatsinks, higher static pressure is generally more important than rpm or airflow.
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Corsair H70 + Arctic Cooling MX-4 keeps my sig rig quite chilly. Just make sure you keep an eye on your northbridge temps as there is no air circulation from a heat-sink fan. If you have a side-mounted intake fan you should be good to go. If not, then use the small fan that comes with these motherboards to supplement NB cooling when you're using a liquid cooling system, including an H-70, -60 or -50.
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I should be getting the new 9900 Zalman MAX cooler (I have a thing for Zalman). I want to hit at least 3.8 GHz and 4.0 as well. Should I consider upgrading my CPU to a 960 i7? I have read that the stock 960 is not worth it because it starts off at a higher temp. Also I am thinking of finally ditching the artic siver 5 as well. Even though I have a full tower LIAN LI, I have a custom side panel that has a 250 mm fan blowing in; this prevents me from getting a ridiculously tall cooler as it will touch the fan. My current Zalman clears it by a few healthy millimeters. Also this new Zalman Max version has been getting good reviews and is definitely a leap over the older 9900.
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I have i7 950 , P6X58D Premium overclocked using Xmisery 930 settings at 4ghz. Everything runs nicely. I would like to overclock my ram as well but I can not figure out how to do so. I have OCZ3RPR2000LV2G ram which should run at 2000mhz with 9-9-9-30
timings. I've manually set the timings to 9-9-9-30 but in CPU-Z it shows the ram is running at PC3-8500F (533MHz). I attempted to browse through the forum but with so many pages of information I can not seem to find the info im looking for. I am newbie when it comes to overclocking so any help would be awsome. Also is there a way to scale the ram's mhz after setting the timings?
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