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Originally Posted by _KaszpiR_ View Post

About memory speeds.

What kcyle said about memory speeds.

The general idea was something like getting stock clocks (say 1333) and latencies (like 9-9-924) and compare it with higher clocks, but bumped with latencies, so it generated something like this:
1333 8-8-8-18
1600 9-9-9-24
1800 10-10-10-somethign

Same goes for the set like this:
1333 7-7-7-x
1600 8-8-8-x
1800 9-9-9-x

I hope you see pattern here.

The conclusion was that if you bump clocks and you keep recommended latencies, then the performance is not noticeable - only lowering latencies significantly changes what is going on in the machine. Of course some applications may not even benefit from higher memory speeds, while other will be very sensitive to it.
So for example going from 1600 9-9-9-24 to 2100 11-11-11-x will not really give you much. It is better to stick to 1600 and lower latency to 8-8-8-x or lower, if possible. Of course not every memory/cpu will be able to handle that, so you have to experiment.
But if this is a computer that you work on on daily basis, I would rather not overclock it too much - instability/memory corruption can be disastrous in certain situations (especially if you do not have backups).

In addition with Haswell it really stopped to scale, except certain applications.
If you want to know more see http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/198894-raming-speed-does-boosting-ddr4-to-3200mhz-improve-overall-performance and other articles referenced in there.


About Windows 10.
I'm waiting for servicepack or something like this - for production it is not fully ready, there are too many issues out there.
If you want to test it then I suggest creating full disk backup of the disk you use for operating system (but on the block lever in off-line mode, something like clonezilla)
Then you can upgrade and see what is going on. If it does not work then revert.
Yes, Windows 10 has revert option, but first of all I've heard too many sad stories with the failed upgrades, so I suspect revert would be even more complicated.
I would really suggest clean install, but it takes time to separate data and shuffle it around.
That's why some companies use C: just for operating system, and keep some other apps and user home directories in separate disks or partitions.

When you lower the latencys, do you need to change the voltage at all? I have Gskill Sniper DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24 @ 1.5v. I just brought my P6X58D-E out of its short retirement after getting a new X5675 for it. OC's better than the last. Yea. The memory is a PITA to get to run at 1600, from my experience. Running at stock speed, and using XMP, it won't post. Only works if I set the BCLK to 160 or 200. Think it doesn't like the higher memory divider or something. It meaning the CPU's IMC. Currently got 4.2Ghz (21*200) with 1.31v. Temps are at 78C at full load, so thats about my limit. Cooling with a Hyper 212+. Maybe if I am good Santa will bring me a Phanteks or that other one I can't remember at the moment. R1 Ultra?. Not sure it will fit because of the case fan I had to mod the case to install. Overall I am satisfied.
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Lower latencies like going from CL9 to CL8 usually may require bit higher voltages on QPI or memory itself.
But this really depends on the quality of the memory and the cpu chip - sometimes you're able to not change anthing, if you're lucky.
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Ok. I'll have to play around with it. Right now I have it set to Auto, and its running at 1600 with 8-11-11-28 1T according to Speccy. I assume its still at 1.5v because that's what I set it in the BIOS. I'll see if I can get it to 8-8-8-28 or something like that.
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Anyone have some base settings to try for the 32nm xeons? I have been running stock due to stability issues - having a hard time getting back into it. I have a xeon x5650

Tried 200 qpi, can boot but get bsod 124 pretty easy and very repeatably, tried playing with higher and lower vcore and qpi voltage. temperatures were fine, its watercooled. Got bsod 9c once too. Any tips? The board I'm using use to do over 200 qpi easy but I might be forgetting some stuff too?
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Hey GUYS!! Just stopping by to say I'm STILL rockin' my Asus P6X58D Prem MOBO!!.
I browsed through all the post since I posted about the X5650 18months ago. WOW!! I'm so happy to see all the success people are having. And, to think I set mine a 3.6Ghz and went about my business.

I was reading where kckyle was pointing people to xmisery settings on page 98 of this thread. So I thought I would try them. BAM!! I was at 4.1ghz w/ voltage under 1.3, using a 22X multiplier. FUN FUN!!! Made the my hair stand up all over.

Anyway! I am selling my X5650 on ebay if anyone is looking for one. I got a 980X and am going to start OC'ing it. Here is the listing. http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/171961458704?

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Anyone have some base settings to try for the 32nm xeons? I have been running stock due to stability issues - having a hard time getting back into it. I have a xeon x5650

Tried 200 qpi, can boot but get bsod 124 pretty easy and very repeatably, tried playing with higher and lower vcore and qpi voltage. temperatures were fine, its watercooled. Got bsod 9c once too. Any tips? The board I'm using use to do over 200 qpi easy but I might be forgetting some stuff too?

http://www.overclock.net/t/662236/official-the-asus-p6x58d-premium-e-thread/5900_50#post_24304305 and about 5 following posts
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Anyone know the recommended drivers, my cd is toast


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Hi all, I´m new in the forum and i´ve just change my i7 950 for a X5650.

I was using Xmisery BIOS templates (3.6GHz one, not big fan of hardcore OC), and I was wondering if I can use those templates for the X5650, I´m lost with this chip, are voltage values valid for this chip?, specially PLL, IOH, QPI...

Thank you very much in advance.
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*cough* 3 posts above *cough*

And driverss are nowdays on Windows update page or just search on asus website.
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*cough* 3 posts above *cough*

And driverss are nowdays on Windows update page or just search on asus website.

Thank you, I´ve gone through most of the posts of this thread and also a lot of them of the X58 overclock club.... but I´m a bit confuse, a lot of people use very different values for the same, I know every chip is different, however with the Nehalem somehow values were similar apart from vCore...

Something that I´m also not clear is Uncore, on i7 ALWAYS has to be 2x RAM speed, but on westmere they say is 1.5x, is that true?

Sorry if I´m a bit pest, but this chip has me very confused...
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