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I dropped my vcore .2v at stock, pretty significant. It's not wrong necessarily, just excessive.


Download CPUz, it will tell you core voltage at least. Idle and load voltages would be good to know. The bios will tell you more voltages under hardware monitor
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Idle and load voltages would be good to know. The bios will tell you more voltages under hardware monitor
Idle: 1.200V
Load: (prime 95) 1.168V
This is with all settings auto/stock.

We might be onto something here, the temp under stress is around 76 degrees C with these settings. However, when i run at manual Vcore 1.050 it is stable but only 63 degrees full load! 1.000V gives me BSOD.
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wait how is your idle at 1.2v thats crazy, thats my voltage for hitting 4ghz. and your load is higher than ur idle? how does that make sense.
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1.05 sounds about right for stock speeds, check in BIOS to see the QPI voltage too and you could probably shave off more but 63 is plenty good enough already.

i think my p6x58d-e defaults to 1.2 as well, and its normal to see the voltage drop a little under load.



The reason the stock and scythe were topping out the same is because of thermal throttling.



Nonetheless that Scythe heatsink will have a hard time cooling a hexacore like the x56XX's, but you could put a bigger 120mm fan on it to try and increase performance - it only goes up to 45 CFM, which leads to another question - is the fan running at 100%?

If it were me, I'd upgrade to at least a 25mm thick fan or even a 38 - Slap a higher CFM fan on it and see how much better it does biggrin.gif. I have yet to find a heatsink that can't do better with better fans. You could even use the casing from the stock fan, snip out the impeller and use it for a shroud for more airflow where the impeller hub was blocking; sandwich it between a better fan and the heat sink. Would be much better.

Sometimes when I'm bored I have used my delta fan - I think its 220 CFM or 240 CFM, some unholy amount - it will levitate. I also have a 92MM fan but I don't think its delta. But there is a point of diminishing gains, 60+ dB isn't worth it. But there are much more reasonable options that are a lot better.

Ultimately, if you don't need a low profile heat sink, use something better. It isn't a bad heat sink, but it doesn't have a whole lot of fin surface AND airflow over them with the stock fan, and these hexacores pump out the heat like nobodies business.

I looked at some reviews, a QX6850 at 3.33ghz was pushing 85ºC at load:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/scythe-big-shuriken-cpu-cooler-review/5/

and a 4770K testbed, it got 50ºC....:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-profile-heat-sink-mini-itx,3639-19.html
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1.05 sounds about right for stock speeds... 63 is plenty good enough already.

i think my p6x58d-e defaults to 1.2 as well, and its normal to see the voltage drop a little under load...

Nonetheless that Scythe heatsink will have a hard time cooling.....is the fan running at 100%?

If it were me, I'd upgrade to at least a 25mm thick fan or even a 38 - Slap a higher CFM fan on it and see how much better it does smile.gif
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and these hexacores pump out the heat like nobodies business.

Thanks for the extensive response!
So you are saying that this mobo gives too high voltages in standard settings? Is this a problem with mine or a general "feature"? I mean; quite weird i have to lower stock settings due to heat issues right?

Yep, the fan goes to 100% rather quickly when heat rises.

I did not even think a about better cooling, because I thought the problem was with the board. The for the creative advice.

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wait how is your idle at 1.2v thats crazy, thats my voltage for hitting 4ghz. and your load is higher than ur idle? how does that make sense.

Thx! So you agree the voltage is high, do you think something is wrong with my board?
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Your welcome, it's not a problem but a "feature"... standard settings are there to make sure any cpu thrown in will work, but it's usually over shooting what is needed by a lot. Common on all other motherboards too, some are more conservative than others.
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OK great, my worries start to fade. But my point about the really fast rise and drop in temp when putting load on/off: is this an indication of something being wrong? I remember that this started two years ago quite suddenly with my old CPU and HS, I think it was after a Lan... Or a bios update. I also have this with my new CPU/HS.like +20 degrees in the first second, then it slowly rises abit more.
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probably a bios thing, are you using the latest version? if you are try revert back a update.
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Movement can loosen the thermal bond between heat sink and processor. Smaller heatsinks suffer more from "thermal shock", and heatpipes respond differently.

It's not unusual for heat to climb under load either, I'm sure your fine but it could also be the plastic clips on the heat sink. They are crap, one loose one can cause much higher temps, I've had it happen a few times on lga1366. Only easy way to tell is if you can see the backside of the motherboard, some cases have the area cut out. It's also a mod I do on all my cases, very useful
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oh god I can't believe I found such a great thread :O

I am looking to squeeze a few years on my current build right now I run a P6X58D Premium motherboard with a i7 930 OC at 3716.43Mhz but I really want to grab a Xeon then a new video card. My concern is that I OC this CPU and I think I was "lucky" to get it "right" the first time nothing crash its running at 60-70C cooled on air on a noctua nh-d14, I want a Xeon that I can push a little and wont run hotter than my current CPU. In the long run I want to switch my Radeon HD 5870 x2 setup for something new too.

Thanks XD
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