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Originally Posted by hollywood406 View Post
Well, I did it. I sold my beloved GA-EX58-UD3R motherboard for a Asus P6X58D. My Gigabyte mobo was a good overclocker with lots of nice features but it was time to upgrade. My son owns a Asus P6T Deluxe V2 and I was amazed at the overclock that he achieved with a C0 3841A i7 (4.1ghz 1.330v Vcore) That had a lot to do with my decision to jump ship to Asus. The P6X58D has all the features plus! The reviews on Newegg were stellar and with SATA3 and USB3, I was hooked, It even looks good!

I'm running a i7 D0 3849B at 4.008ghz with 1.2500v Vcore...........This same i7 cpu used 1.3350v Vcore for 4.185ghz in the EX58-UD3R so we'll see how much more efficient it will be at overclocking on the Asus. I'm flashed to 0604 BIOS and I found it strange also that Asus pulled the 0702 off the site. I suppose that should be good news. I had read (in this thread) that there were some issues with 0702 so I only flashed to the 0604 BIOS for the fix in TurboV for DRAM (it did). Anyway.....here are some pics of my latest "baby"

I'm real excited about it, The Gigabyte was a "budget build" for my first X58. This is the most I've ever spent for a motherboard. It was either the Asus or the Gigabyte UD7. A deal at Microcenter and my Son's Asus made the difference.
Very nice! Welcome to the club! Great looking system you have there and good job on the cable management.

This has been a pretty active thread so be sure to keep it subscribed.
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0702 is fine especially if you don't use turbo-v....
That's what I thought. thanks.
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I've been getting a lot of BSOD's stress testing. Anyone know what kind of BSODs I would get for having like over or under voltage and stuff? I feel like the ones that I'm getting are RAM related.
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Very nice! Welcome to the club! Great looking system you have there and good job on the cable management.

This has been a pretty active thread so be sure to keep it subscribed.
no kidding. it's only been 3 weeks and this thread has more post/views than any other thread within the same time frame.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...614&Tpk=p6x58d
103 out of 107 people found this review helpful.

hehe
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post #725 of 6382
Well this is best I can do with this i7-930 batch #3001A187. Cannot complain too much although it needs lots of Vcore and it took a long time to get 25 runs of LinX 25,000 problem size with 8 threads to complete! It also runs cool considering the high Vcore - although probably can thank the Noctua NH-D14 for that.

Turns out the lower QPI/Dram values were more stable for me - best stability at DDR3-1600 / uncore 3200 / QPI 3600 were 1.2250v & 1.23125v. Higher QPI/Dram voltages triggered errors within 5-10 runs of LinX.

LinX stability at 4.0GHz required Vcore 1.28125v using the 21 multiplier with 191 bclk. This slightly underclocked the DRAM to 1523mHz, which was not enough to drop timings to 7-7-7. I tried briefly the 20x200 setting but it gave an early BSOD so I didn't pursue it further.

I was able to complete Prime 95 small FFT and particularly hyperpi 32M x 8 with considerably lower Vcore, but about 0.05v additional was required for LinX to be stable. Prime 95 large FFT did find the instability also but took longer than LinX and tended to BSOD, whereas LinX would just return an error without halting the system. Probably it best to use all of these tools. Next time I will start with hyperpi to get into range, then bump as needed for at least 25 runs of LinX, then finally prime95 blend overnight.

Most of the settings are visible in the screencap, so give them a try if xmisery's suggestions aren't working for you. They didn't even come close for me - I think his CPU is way above average at least for recently made D0 chips! I also used Diff Amp of 800mv, skews of 300ps for CPU & IOH, and manual RTL of 56-57-58; at least on my board, these actually read 1 clock cycle higher than manually set in the BIOS and in CPU-Tweaker, so the reported values are 57-58-59. From my calculations, 57 is the correct latency for the 1st slot when running with a 3200 uncore frequency. I also manually set all the first group of DRAM timings (8-8-8-24-5-88-12-6-24-0) and 1N in the second group. My XMP profile defaulted to 2N for some reason but it runs fine at 1N, at least with the volts raised a little to 1.70.

Come Monday I'll have a Xeon W3520 to play with. Hopefully it will be better, seems that nearly all samples do 4.2GHz HT with Vcore of 1.275v - more than 0.1v lower than my 930. At nearly 1.4v it potentially may do 4.4-4.5GHz on air if I'm lucky.



http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1046859
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I'm still having great problem trying to run at 4.2 Ghz. I don't know what's going on but it keeps restarting and BSOD's when I stress test. I feel like it's my RAM's fault but Memtest doesn't say so. Am I really that unlucky to get a batch that requires me to run at 1.35 vcore? It gets way too hot that way and my RAMs aren't happy to be underclocked
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Hey all. Just found this thread yesterday. But I sure could have used it earlier.

I'm pretty much done with my new build at this point. I started it technically january 5th, when I bought the case.

As it turns out, I had my overclock very similar to xmiserys 4ghz set up. Thanks a lot for that by the way.. by tweaking mine to closer to yours I was able to get stable at a lower vcore.

I've read like 70% of this thread. Have to say, what a great resource of information on this very nice board. You guys all rule. I am really enjoying this board.

Anyway, on to my stats. My setup:

Apple G5 case
Asus p6x58d premium
lapped core i7 920
lapped TRUE Copper w/ washer mod
12gb Corsair Dominator
Seasonic 850w
EVGA GTX 260
64gb crucial ssd
3x samsung f3 1tb
30" apple cinema display
23" apple cinema

I'm currently completely stable at 4,001MHz, using mostly xmiserys settings but with a vcore of 1.225. I thought I was stable at 1.21875, when IBT did 10 successfully, and 1 hour on prime 95. But then OCCT reported a cpu error after running it for an hour.. so I boosted the vcore a little bit. Before finding this thread, I was pushing 1.2875 vcore, and my temps were breaking 75 at full load.

Now my temps idle at 37-38 and peak right at 69-70. I just put it back together two days ago because I had to replace the power supply, I got my replacement seasonic mdl-850, after the first had coil whine, and the second wasn't even completely assembled ugh.. So maybe it'll drop a couple degrees when the arctic 5 cures.. and I'm still waiting on my other nexus 12cm fan. I was using scythes but they were just too loud and didn't gain me much at all. So I'm thinking those will help a little. It's definitely a little tight in my case, but I am getting a lot of airflow with 7 fans total.

I also just tried ic diamond 7 carat, but when my temps rose 3-5 degrees I went back to arctic 5 and THEN someone told me that I had to leave it sit for 10 minutes for something to evaporate first, so now I'm considering trying it again.

Wish I could get all my cores to be as low as cpu d which is routinely 5-6 degrees cooler. I've lapped the true about 5 times now and it ain't easy. but using the sharpie test, and the razor test, it's very flat in the middle, and only like 3-4mm of the edge falls off ever so slightly. The IHS of the 920 is veeerrryy flat, was much easier.

Sorry for the long post, any tips are greatly appreciated, but for now I'm loving this computer.

I haven't taken any pictures recently, and a lot has changed, but here is from a couple weeks ago(I know the cables are a mess, and the fan isn't even installed yet).





If you're super bored, this is a thread I documented some of the build/mod:http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/ind...owtopic=206381
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Apple G5 case!??! Now THAT I would like to see pictures of! The build sounds good. Glad to hear that you're at 4ghz with such a low Vcore. I've found that OCCT is pretty stressful on the CPU, where Prime95 passes an hour or more, OCCT fails within minutes. I use Prime95 first then start in with OCCT for a better indication of stability.

What is the RTL that everyone is talking about? Is that something to do with the DRAM timings? What do they mean? Thanks in advance!
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Hey all. Just found this thread yesterday. But I sure could have used it earlier.

I'm pretty much done with my new build at this point. I started it technically january 5th, when I bought the case.

As it turns out, I had my overclock very similar to xmiserys 4ghz set up. Thanks a lot for that by the way.. by tweaking mine to closer to yours I was able to get stable at a lower vcore.

I've read like 70% of this thread. Have to say, what a great resource of information on this very nice board. You guys all rule. I am really enjoying this board.

Anyway, on to my stats. My setup:

Apple G5 case
Asus p6x58d premium
lapped core i7 920
lapped TRUE Copper w/ washer mod
12gb Corsair Dominator
Seasonic 850w
EVGA GTX 260
64gb crucial ssd
3x samsung f3 1tb
30" apple cinema display
23" apple cinema

I'm currently completely stable at 4,001MHz, using mostly xmiserys settings but with a vcore of 1.225. I thought I was stable at 1.21875, when IBT did 10 successfully, and 1 hour on prime 95. But then OCCT reported a cpu error after running it for an hour.. so I boosted the vcore a little bit. Before finding this thread, I was pushing 1.2875 vcore, and my temps were breaking 75 at full load.

Now my temps idle at 37-38 and peak right at 69-70. I just put it back together two days ago because I had to replace the power supply, I got my replacement seasonic mdl-850, after the first had coil whine, and the second wasn't even completely assembled ugh.. So maybe it'll drop a couple degrees when the arctic 5 cures.. and I'm still waiting on my other nexus 12cm fan. I was using scythes but they were just too loud and didn't gain me much at all. So I'm thinking those will help a little. It's definitely a little tight in my case, but I am getting a lot of airflow with 7 fans total.

I also just tried ic diamond 7 carat, but when my temps rose 3-5 degrees I went back to arctic 5 and THEN someone told me that I had to leave it sit for 10 minutes for something to evaporate first, so now I'm considering trying it again.

Wish I could get all my cores to be as low as cpu d which is routinely 5-6 degrees cooler. I've lapped the true about 5 times now and it ain't easy. but using the sharpie test, and the razor test, it's very flat in the middle, and only like 3-4mm of the edge falls off ever so slightly. The IHS of the 920 is veeerrryy flat, was much easier.

Sorry for the long post, any tips are greatly appreciated, but for now I'm loving this computer.

I haven't taken any pictures recently, and a lot has changed, but here is from a couple weeks ago(I know the cables are a mess, and the fan isn't even installed yet).





If you're super bored, this is a thread I documented some of the build/mod:http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/ind...owtopic=206381
I love posts like this. Thanks for the info. And good luck pumping that bclk higher!

I've lapped my TRUE a couple of times as well. I'm starting to think if I go any farther I'm gonna see heatpipe protruding thru. I think the difference in cpu temps is normal on this board as I've seen it with several other users as well. I have the same situation where cpu core 4 will always run 5-7C cooler than cpu1. I'll be curious to see your TIM results as I have always used MX-2 but have been thinking about trying some diamond or maybe even some of that crazy indigo liquid metal stuff

Can I ask 2 questions of you - Are you running with HT on? And did you document which changes were necessary to lower the vcore? I have done a little fiddling with Round Trip Latency values that allowed me to achieve a slightly lower vcore and QPI than my initial tests, but that's about it.

Cheers mate, and welcome to the club.
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I'm still having great problem trying to run at 4.2 Ghz. I don't know what's going on but it keeps restarting and BSOD's when I stress test. I feel like it's my RAM's fault but Memtest doesn't say so. Am I really that unlucky to get a batch that requires me to run at 1.35 vcore? It gets way too hot that way and my RAMs aren't happy to be underclocked
Can I make a suggestion that I am sure you won't like? Start over. Clear the BIOS, reflash it to the newest version, load optimized defaults and start over, bumping 5-10 bclk as you go, and take detailed notes. Like REALLY detailed notes. Voltages, timings, what type of BSOD.

I just don't see anyone being able to help you with the information you have given. Stable at 4.2ghz but not stable at 4.0. It doesn't make any sense, and it sounds like there is some setting somewhere that is getting dorked.
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