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I was talking about shooting human beings (and thus human-sized beings) all along here...
There can be large differences between people.
300Lbs person vs 150Lbs person?

Still my original point is that in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is that a person gets shocked/stunned when they are shot at close range with a hand gun. Most FPS games; you pound 4 or 5 slugs into someones chest at close range and they don't even notice till the last one kills them.
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There can be large differences between people.
300Lbs person vs 150Lbs person?

Still my original point is that in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is that a person gets shocked/stunned when they are shot at close range with a hand gun. Most FPS games; you pound 4 or 5 slugs into someones chest at close range and they don't even notice till the last one kills them.
No, in Stalker you shoot a dog 14 times with a pistol before it dies. Sorry, but once or twice would put the thing down, even with a 9mm.

Later on, yeah, the guns get better and are more realistic...but early on you may as well have spitballs.
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But we're talking mutated dogs here. Not your average everyday chihuahua. I do agree though that some creatures are a bit too tough for what they would probably be in real life. I just grab my drum shotty and make short work of them when they come in on a face to face charge though. 1 or 2 shots usually do them in.

I got smart with the Blood Sucker mission in Jupiter though. I went up on top of the factory tower and picked them off from a distance. Took a bit of ammo but it was completely painless... for me anyway.

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No, in Stalker you shoot a dog 14 times with a pistol before it dies. Sorry, but once or twice would put the thing down, even with a 9mm.
Assuming the dog wasn't a rabid mutant, and that it is easy to hit anything moving with a 9mm handgun
The mutants can be tough, but they are supposed to be a vicious enemy.

I would like to see some involuntary motions on the players character too. Involuntary doubling over on some shots, disrupting iron sights when getting hit, etc.
    
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Assuming the dog wasn't a rabid mutant, and that it is easy to hit anything moving with a 9mm handgun
The mutants can be tough, but they are supposed to be a vicious enemy.

I would like to see some involuntary motions on the players character too. Involuntary doubling over on some shots, disrupting iron sights when getting hit, etc.
Exactly. No way a regular human is going to take a hit and be able to aim as though only wind hit him. lol

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Exactly. No way a regular human is going to take a hit and be able to aim as though only wind hit him. lol

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Actually it's not uncommon for soldiers to be shot and not realize it after the fight is over.
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Actually it's not uncommon for soldiers to be shot and not realize it after the fight is over.
This is true but if I unload a clip into you you'll have to regain your sight picture.

That's what I like about the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games. No one person is exactly alike and different things can happen.

Like the other day to take out the Dwarves in the tunnel. I got up to the railroad tracks and noticed that I was within full view of something. So I went to ground and slowly looked around. Just in time to notice a Blood Sucker not to far away but far enough to where he didn't notice me. Normally they're on me lickety split. I loaded a grenade into the launcher for just in case, then readied my clip and started sniping him. Thank goodness I didn't need the grenade. Nothing like popping one of those suckers in close proximity to your own position. I would've if I had no other choice but my camouflage suit and suppressor was all I needed to keep me safe. Too bad we can't get the urban camo the Monolith fighters wear. Coulda used that in the tunnel.

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A few days ago I was re-running COP while waiting for Complete. So, I got to the tunnel to kill the damn burers, but this time I got it right: drop all the weapons, artifacts and **** you won't use (so you are not as heavy, and regain stamina faster), get your knife and start stabbing. If you do it like this they will get surprised and they will die incredibly fast.

Also, it was hilarious when I had to kill the damn Quimera (2nd one). I tried once, and again, and again, and the damn creature had me for dinner countless time. At the end, it seems there was a controller around that kill it Yeah, weird. One day I'll try to kill it when its sleeping (as there are tunnels underneath the place it goes out at night, so you should find it there; not that I would like to fight a quimera in such conditions, though ).


PS: CS is horrible. I just can't stand how innaccurate the guns are at the beginning of the game, and how scarce decent ammo is. And I'm not talking about headshots...but about not wasting 20 bullets to have somebody killed in 2
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always wanted to try stalker, but im really not into game with no demos. unfortunately that seems to be ALL games now.
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always wanted to try stalker, but im really not into game with no demos. unfortunately that seems to be ALL games now.
Well, I'm going to sum up the pros and cons of stalkers.

Pros:
-Probably the best atmosphear you have ever been into.
-The basements missions are probably the best to be found in any fps.
-The game is quite challenging, specially at the beginning, but you never get overpowered not to be scared of the simplest of enemies.
-A ton of stuff to explore and lurk into.
-You don't need to talk to a bazillion characters in order to know what is going on, you can go the fast way or not, its your choice.
-Tons of mods to setup the game as you like.
-Innovative ballistic system.

Cons:
-The game has no training. You start, and it can be really frustrating at first if you try to handle it as a normal fps because IT IS NOT. It is not recommended to play the game for the first time in maximum difficulty, because in normal FPS you quick-save and quick-load all the time not because you die...but because you try to do the area saving both ammo and health; in Stalker this is never the case, you will load a bazillion times because you die often...and by often I mean that you die every 10 minutes (get into an anomaly, a ton of mutants suddenly appear around you, you get head-shoot, etc ).
-Its kinda easy to lose the story line because it's so awesome to explore the huge maps.

All in all, the game is different than everything else. I'm not sure what to compare it with, because you don't get experience or levels, but your gear improves a ton as you start digging into the game, so there is some RPG into it. Also, the enemies become tougher...and you get to explore a LOT.

I recommend that you try it. Stalker: shadow of chernobyl is rather cheap as we speak, and IMO the chances you will be blown away by its glory are higher than not, and that cost...well, worth it
If you do buy it, I suggest you start it directly with Complete mod 2009. It doesn't modify the game, it just makes it better because it keeps the pure essence that GSC put into it but polishes all the harsh sides.
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