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Actually if you create a fresh install you CAN create a system image to install that is preset in any manner you desire (I have seen this used at our school and in small businesses where you want or need disparate machines to all have the same installed setup and software but don't want to run through 100's of reinstall iterations of said programs - create the system image using sysprep and it works faster). I always talked about this previously being the safest way to move from old hardware to new hardware when you don't want to do a fresh install and it is SYSPREP.

 

That said I just recently bought and installed a new motherboard and processor. Now I had previously used this guide to move all my user files to a larger hard drive and it worked, but on this install I set out to see if there was any other easier method and lo and behold! There is one that if you are doing a CLEAN installation uses Audit Mode (or as I love to call it SYSPREP) in order to move all your folders to a new location BEFORE you create a new user.

 

(I hope the OP and others do not view this as threadcrapping btw - I just thought it was the appropriate place to post this.)  As a previous user of the information in this thread the method I ran across is much simpler and requires no regedits. But it only really works on fresh installs BEFORE any user names are created. Once it is done all future user names and folders will be created using and in the secondary hard drive.

 

The actual reason I found it was because I was debating reloading Win7 or going with Win8. Here are the links to the relevant posts (on different forums then here so I am taking no credit!!!) 

 

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/124198-user-profiles-create-move-during-windows-7-installation.html

 

and then this one was the thread I found relevant to Win8 http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/4275-user-profiles-relocate-another-partition-disk.html

 

 

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Do you have any links to the method you use? That would be awesome too if you did.


http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/124198-user-profiles-create-move-during-windows-7-installation.html

There is a PDF that tells you how to do it. It makes the whole process simple since all you have to do is run a script through cmd and everything is done. Just make sure when you make the script that you change the drive letters to the appropriate drives (for both where you want your user data and where your CD drive is) otherwise your user data will end up on a different drive or even on a drive that doesn't exist for you. It's very simple to follow though otherwise.
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you can change everything if you make a new user profile and reinstall everything (uninstall first) and then change everything needed in the registry. Be very careful if you do this, you can easily **** up your system. I'd just do a clean install myself, in fact I did. Just back up your stuff 1st

Exactly why I don't like doing it through the registry. I let Windows handle all its own dirty work.

 

Yep same as I had previously posted in the thread. It is much simpler, less work, automated. And the several times I have used it now works flawlessly! Reason I at the time linked both the Win7 and Win8 versions of the instructions (the Win8 version has some slight different restrictions due to changes in Win8)

    
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Quick question, I don't know if this was asked or not but what about Audit Mode for junctioning the drive? Would that be the same as this minus creating a user account and duplicating folders?

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Yep same as I had previously posted in the thread. It is much simpler, less work, automated. And the several times I have used it now works flawlessly! Reason I at the time linked both the Win7 and Win8 versions of the instructions (the Win8 version has some slight different restrictions due to changes in Win8)

Yup it's funny how people seem to skip over the easy way sometimes.
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This is an awesome guide. thumb.gif

I just finished doing this on a fresh install of windows and it worked perfectly with no problems.

My only question:

Is there a way to move the Program File and Program Files (x86) to thesecondary HHD.

In the guide, it has us make folders with the labels but only the 'Users' data is moved.

Would making this happen be done the same way as changing the "C:\Users" to "X:\Users" in the registry?

I.E. "C:\Program Files" to "X:\Program Files" & "C:\Program Files (x86)" to "X:\Program Files (x86)"

Any advice, or thread links would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
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Hey this is a great tutorial! I had a problem with step 10, though. I ran through the whole tutorial once, but at step 10 the image included wasn't there. So I changed "%systemdrive%" to "D:" in Default, Programfiles, Profilesdirectory, and Public. After completing the rest of the tutorial, I couldn't access "Administrative Tools" in control panel because it said that the location was invalid but possibly on a hard drive somewhere.

Anyone know which of these I'm supposed to change? My guess is Default and Public but I'd like to be 100% sure.
"D:\Users\Public" and "D:\Users\Default"

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This is a very appealing idea, but after an inordinate amount of wasted time on 4-5 tries, the results getting worse each time, I was locked out of Windows because both the "Pro" and the other Step 11 user got a "user profile serivice failed to logon on" error. Tried all the published fixes for that. Then could not even boot in safe mode. I've done a new clean 64 bit install from the Windows 7 distribution DVD. And I won't attempt this again. If I wind up with some clutter on the SSD C: it will be easier and faster to wipe it and do a fresh install. Or throw the SSD away and get a new larger one and do a fresh install. Than trying to make this work.

I'll use the less than optimal Windows "relocate user folder." Or just manually save my important application data to a separate HDD.

I'm sure this is better, cooler and neater, but I'm not good, cool or neat enough to make it work. At least I'll have a functional computer and my important data on another HDD.

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Hey:
Great post...! I got a problem though, I followed some other dudes on the SSD setup and what a mess...! I was wondering if your instructions would work on a System already setup to avoid another install of the OS. Could I create a new Admin. account in Windows 7, and another user Account, and then basically do what you did in the post, and then delete the old Admin. account I'm using now...?
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I'll use the less than optimal Windows "relocate user folder." Or just manually save my important application data to a separate HDD.

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I was reading up on relocating the user folder through Windows 7, to prepare to do it. I found an article that states clearly that moving the user profile to another drive (that where the OS System is) rather than just the data folders, will prevent Windows 8.1 from installing on an upgrade. No immediate concern to me but a heads up for anyone planning an OS upgrade.

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So just to clear up, for steps 1-5 I do:

1. Install windows, when asked for the username, dont name it what you want, just name it something else.

2. Log onto that account and create the profile with the name you actually want. Install drivers, patches etc on this first account (not the one with the name you want)

3. Show hidden files and folders.

4. In disc manager, create a partition on the HDD (NOT SSD) and give it any letter.

5. In this new partition, create 3 new folders: "Users" "Program Files" "Program Files (x86)"

These are steps 1-5 correct??

General questions I have; in step 4, when I give a letter to the partition, that will not be the partition with the OS right? The OS will be on the SSD with C:\ right?

I understand that this tutorial makes all the arbitrary reading/writing happen on the HDD but will this partition eventually fill up and need to be cleaned?

I feel like I already know the answers to my questions, but I want to hear it from other people. tongue.gif


Also, if done incorrectly, will I be able to clear my SSD and start from scratch?
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Noob alert - just wondering if one of you fine people could advise me.
I happen to have a new PC sitting around waiting to be initialised.
I also have a copy of Windows 7 Pro ready to put on it
I also happen to have a 128gig SSD sitting around doing nothing ( the PC has arrived with a 1Tb installed)
So I really want to mash those 3 things together and if feasible I'll surely study this thread carefully, but really the first thing to ascertain is whether a 128gig is large enough to run windows 7?
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