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Its basically just a 7800GTX 512 without the 512. I dont know about that Infinate reality mumbo-jumbo, but that just proves its speed, not image quality. Something can be fast but have less image quality. Even though thats not the case here though, just like I said dont expect anything out of it that a good computer with a GTX 512 cant do.
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I really dont understand how people are so ready to bash things about when they havent even seen or used them . I am happy that there is competition there , thus pushing each company to try and outperform the other.
Although i tend to buy sony productsl, i wont say that the 360 is bad, because its not. Its a good bit of kit and does what its supposed to do. At the same time i cant say anything about the PS3 though, because its not out yet. I dont understand how people can get so hostile over these things.
This is my opinion only.
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i wouldnt say were getting hostile, but havent been judging the PS3, only defending the 360
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I really dont understand how people are so ready to bash things about when they havent even seen or used them . I am happy that there is competition there , thus pushing each company to try and outperform the other.
Although i tend to buy sony productsl, i wont say that the 360 is bad, because its not. Its a good bit of kit and does what its supposed to do. At the same time i cant say anything about the PS3 though, because its not out yet. I dont understand how people can get so hostile over these things.
This is my opinion only.
Well if your reffering to me though, im not. Im just surprised how some people forget about computers when they talk about consoles.. Its like saying the X1800XT is better than the 7800GTX because its faster in mhz, or saying the 7800GTX is faster because it has more pipelines.
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Look, Sony has always done a good job with their consoles considering their position. They were the king of console-makers until Bill Gates decided to throw about a billion or so dollars into developing the XBOX consoles. The only reason the XBOX has so many features is because Microsoft practically is the king of software design, so they know how to optimize things for the hardware they supply.
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^first of all, sony-king, no
nintendo was king until xbox, but secondly, dont be irrational and think "oh bill gates threw a billion, so its good" SO WHAT if bill gates put money into it(which he didnt) is that bad?
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I remeber seeing shots of Devil May Cry 4 and thinking "Damn this looks just like real life." That's what I think of when I think of next gen games though I doubt the actual games will look like that.

Anyway even if the the video card in the PS3 was significantly less powerful then the 7800GTX (which it shouldn't be because Sony said it will be more powerful then two 6800 ultras) the games will still look better then what you have coming out on the pc. Look how much has come out of the ps2 emotion engine, you would never even think of getting anywhere near the same graphics out of a pc with the same specs. Now developers are writting specifically for the video card and cell processor. When they develop a game for the pc they have to accomodate a huge range of systems, there is no way your 7800GTX is reaching anywhere near it's full potential in terms of graphics so it's unfair to say "it won't look any better then what the 7800GTX can put out", you havent seen what the card can do in a rig optimized for one thing, gaming.

And that's just what it's supposed to do, when I'm going to put down $400 (or even $500 if it sells for that) for the PS3 I'll know that I'm getting my money's worth. Plus one thing that no one mentioned is that I will be able to play it on my 42" HDTV in 720p not my little 17" pc monitor and play with other people when they come over.
Well firstly, I was comparing the famed R500 "Xenon" Xbox 360 GPU to a 7800GTX, not the RSX, since the RSX is supposedly nothing more than a 7800GTX anyway.
I've already conceded the fact that even with a less powerful system, a console will continue to have good graphics compared to a PC for longer period of time, it's a simple concept, dedicated purpose. Will it have better graphics? No way, all the games you play on your consoles were designed on a computer to begin with. And that's the thing about a computer, it can do so, so many more things than a game console can. For that, we pay a small price in performance, but I'd rather have the flexibility myself. Game developers still have to accomdate system differences with consoles, unless they want to write three diffrent games for each of the major systems. With a PC, you have AMD and Intel, which are both x86 processors, and nVidia and ATi, and differences aren't that great, not really a good point. I think it's quite fair to say it won't look any better than what my PC can do because even now, the only new-gen consoles games are just PC port overs that looks no better, and a lot of times, worse, than their PC versions. And while PC hardware evolves and gets better, your console hardware just keeps getting older and older.
Upgradability is also key, sure the PS2 may look pretty good for its age, but it's no comparison to what's on PC right now, or what was two years ago, and unlike the PC, you cannot go and buy a new graphics card for the PS2, no, instead you have to wait for the ~5 yearly update to the systems for better graphics.
Hate to burst your bubble, but I can hook up my computer to a 42 inch 720p television screen just as quickly as you can with any console. And my little 19 inch monitor is capable of much higher resolutions than any HD TV, resolutions higher than even my video card can put out. Combine that with I'm sitting about eight inches away from my screen, it's plenty big as is. Gonna get even bigger when I get my 24 inch widescreen.
If you like split-screen gaming, then more power to you, but I hate it with a passion, so I play multiplayer online. That's another realm PC reigns supreme, you won't find me paying Microshaft x amount of dollars a month, on top of my broad band Internet connection cost, to play Internet games when I can do it for free on my computer.
    
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yeah i'd say the fact that you can buy a pc game and if you have internet play it for free right away is my favorite part about the pc, if i hadn't gotten an xbox live subscription for my birthday, i wouldn't have even bothered.
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FFXI.. WoW.
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FFXI.. WoW.
That's the games, not the limitation of the network, if you're stupid enough to pay for those games then I feel pitty for you. Guildwars is free though.
    
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